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Koalama Sun 30-Apr-23 11:52:47

As a royalist but also a princess Diana fan, I'm struggling, I can't stand to see camilla crowned queen, I don't want to watch, it's making me less of a royalist, I wish he'd just pass it on to William and Kate

NanaDana Sun 30-Apr-23 15:38:29

Charles and Diana may have had a fairy-tale wedding, but it turned out to be anything but a fairy-tale marriage. Diana was from the start quite rightly unhappy about Charles' relationship with Camilla, and her apocryphal quote that "there were always three of us in this marriage" more or less sums up how doomed to failure it all was. I believe that she was cynically selected by senior Royals as suitable "breeding stock", and now find it rather ironic that Camilla, who was originally deemed to be not of sufficient status to associate with Charles, is soon to be crowned his Queen. It has been said, perhaps unkindly, that she is "the Mistress who made good". Perhaps if the Royal family had not been so dysfunctional and so obsessed with status, Charles would have been able to take Camilla as his first wife, and all would have been well. They do seem well-suited, but as for "Queen" Camilla, I suspect that there will be many Royalists who will struggle with this. In my own case, as a lifelong Republican , titles and allegiances are of no interest to me. I will watch some of the Coronation ceremony, but only out of interest in its significance as social history.

MayBee70 Sun 30-Apr-23 15:33:12

Would we have all the castles and stately homes that many of us love to visit if we didn’t have royalty?

AJgranma Sun 30-Apr-23 15:20:53

Struggling to imagine why you think any of the people you mention are preferable to Camilla. No idea about her, or any of them really. I will watch because I enjoy the spectacle of the occasion - as I watch all ‘Royal’ coverage - but not because I think the people concerned have any merit. Royalty, gentry and privilege should all be consigned to the past IMO. Most of these people still own vast land stolen & given to their ancestors by the Conqueror after 1066 - why they should be regarded as ‘noble’ is beyond me, particularly when many added proceeds from slavery to their riches. I do enjoy a spectacle though, & it’s an excuse for a nice get together.

MayBee70 Sun 30-Apr-23 15:20:31

I’ve warmed to Camilla over the years and I do think they make a good couple and are right for each other. Having said that I think she should be Queen Consort not Queen. Prince Phillip was never King and the Queen and he had never had a rather sordid affair. I think she’s being rammed down our throats a bit. And I think he’s made a big mistake with this swearing allegiance to the King stuff as well. And I am someone that has a soft spot for the Royals and respect Charles for being so ahead of his time conservation wise.

JaneJudge Sun 30-Apr-23 15:13:52

I don;t understand why people get so het up about something that happened 4 decades ago to otter people they don;t even know.

Sara1954 Sun 30-Apr-23 15:11:47

I wish them well, it’s a tough job to take on in your seventies.
I agree with all who have said they should have married in the first place, Diana wasn’t treated well, but she was no saint either.

Galaxy Sun 30-Apr-23 15:07:23

Presumably that applies equally to Camilla.

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-23 14:53:15

Diana had no concern for the wives of the men she had affairs with

ExDancer Sun 30-Apr-23 14:41:25

Koalama I feel as you do, I just cannot 'take to' Camilla and I only have to look at her self-satisfied expression in photographs to feel bitter. OK Diana was a poor choice but to my mind Camilla was a worse one and seems to have actively helped destroy Charles's marriage to Diana.

wildswan16 Sun 30-Apr-23 14:33:48

I am pleased that Charles has Camilla by his side. I think she will be a great benefit to him as he takes on his role as King at an age most of us enjoy taking things a bit easier.

I am a royalist, I love the traditions of our country, I will be watching the coronation.

The problems of his previous marriage are long ago, and it takes two to make a successful union - neither of the two involved were faultless and it should have been put to rest a long time ago.

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Apr-23 14:27:24

Can't believe I typed that, it was because I was reading other posts!! 😲

William and Catherine

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Apr-23 14:26:31

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Norah Sun 30-Apr-23 14:25:54

We'll be working.

Many opinions will surely be available after the coronation.

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-23 14:22:35

3 years after her marriage Diana was deeply in love with someone else

JaneJudge Sun 30-Apr-23 14:09:10

Diana died almost 26 years ago. It was sad but she had moved on with her life too

I'm uncomfortable wth all of it though but I am also a hypocrite nd will watch

Grandma70s Sun 30-Apr-23 14:03:23

I don’t take to Camilla, and I can’t even say why. It’s nothing to do with Diana. She just doesn’t seem very queen-like to me. I was reading the words of the service and thinking how absurd “Vivat Regina Camilla” sounded. I don’t like the word ‘commoner’, but that’s what she is, and I don’t see how marriage to Charles will change that.

LadyHonoriaDedlock Sun 30-Apr-23 13:42:05

I'm not a monarchist (and I was never a Diana fan, I saw through her early on) but as the monarch is what we have, for the time being, then Camilla is the right person for the job of consort to Charles and I don't dislike Charles as a person either.

Diana would have been a disaster as Queen Consort. She would never have agreed to walk two steps behind her husband (as the "man's man" Philip felt able to do for the late Queen) and would have constantly insisted on being the centre of attention, upstaging him at every opportunity.

I think it is safe to say I will not be watching the coronation on TV or attending any street parties.

pascal30 Sun 30-Apr-23 13:31:25

I too like Camilla, she is wonderfully unobtrusive, warm and amusing.. why wouldn't Charles prefer her..

mokryna Sun 30-Apr-23 13:26:29

In the 90’s Charles was moaning, if reports are to be believed, that his mother should retire because she was 70 years old, both Camilla and he are about that age now

Oreo Sun 30-Apr-23 13:23:08

He should have married Camilla in the first place instead of waiting around and leaving it too late.
We can’t choose who we like as King or Queen, but yeah, don’t watch if it affects you.

fancythat Sun 30-Apr-23 13:17:56

I am much the same Koalama. And am not even exactly sure why.
I felt a bit better with her being Queen consort.
I think for me it may be death by a thousand cuts type thing as regards the Royals.
Will watch bits.
As I have said elsewhere on here I think, partly it is I feel I have watched royal things over and over. Though not a coronation.
I have mixed feelings.

Doodledog Sun 30-Apr-23 13:12:15

I'm pretty much indifferent to the monarchy, but will probably watch some of the coronation as it's History with a capital H.

I neither like nor dislike any of them (Andrew aside, obviously), but agree that Charles and Camilla make a good couple, and Diana was clearly unsuited to both him and the role as it turned out to be. She was great at being a celebrity and at using that celebrity for good causes, but not at standing by when the man she loved was carrying on an affair with someone else. Who would be?

Anniebach Sun 30-Apr-23 13:10:13

Not true that they wanted to marry when they first dated.

Daisymae Sun 30-Apr-23 13:08:22

Things have moved on, she's his wife so can't see any reason why she should not be Queen.

Mollygo Sun 30-Apr-23 13:07:57

Koalama

As a royalist but also a princess Diana fan, I'm struggling, I can't stand to see camilla crowned queen, I don't want to watch, it's making me less of a royalist, I wish he'd just pass it on to William and Kate

So don’t watch!
No one will make you watch, sitting or standing, or care whether you watch,
or care whether you are a Diana fan or not.
I don’t see your problem.