Black Dog 18

Oh dear, you made me laugh Whiff. My brain gets frazzled reading and remembering.
Well done on your weight loss. I lost a stone over the course of a year. And it has stayed off with sensible diet.

Goodnight all. Wyllow3 xx

Read but again cant respond Only just about managing to rely to family whatsapps now and then as too lost. xx

Night night BD's x

Morning. I hope everyone has had a good night's sleep. Awake and up early today. Off to Derby with U3a theatre group to see Brassed Off.
I'm feeling better this morning. Thank you for your kind thoughts and messages. Thinking especially of Wyllow. Hope everyone has the best day they can.

Doodle If you're having 800 calories including wine, you can't be eating much! Don't go mad, or you won't be getting enough nutrients. I'm going to try to cut out carbs, starting today. Glad you've now been discharged and that your wrist is much better. It's Son2's baby we're having on Friday night .

nadateturbe I had 3 hours of the house to myself, which was nice, thanks. He's no bother, but occasionally it's good to spend a bit of time apart. Hope today is better for you.

SweetpeaSue Hope the pain is easing off now.

Whiff That's a marvellous weight loss. Like a lot of people, I'd like a quick fix, but it's not realistic. I lost 4st in 4 months a few years ago, on the Cambridge diet - gained it all back, plus another stone since then. It's not easy.

No day centre - some of them are going on a boat trip. I've been on this particular one (not with a group, but with family as the Captain then was DH's niece, so chartered the boat for MIL's birthday). It was bad weather on the day, and didn't sail, so everyone sat on the moored boat for 3 hours .
Hope ALL BDers have a decent day. x

Dear Whiff how kind of you to be concerned about me. I have taken on board all you said and will have a re think. Perhaps a 5:2. Your weight loss is amazing. Well done. And bless you for caring.
Wyllow I wish we could be of more support. Is anyone helping you, I do hope so. Much love x
HVDY yes I realised it was your lovely new baby you were having to stay. I love them when they’re little and so cuddly.
Hope you have a good day and do something nice.
We are at the hospital for DH blood infusion but might go out to dinner this afternoon blowing the diet out of the water 😮
I am cutting down carbs too (apart from today) and have been eating more fruit and veg. I was amazed to se how many carbs there were in some fruits. Made me have a re think about that too.
Your diet loss was amazing too. When I say I need to lose weight I do because all my extra is concentrated round my tummy where they say it’s a bad thing. I weigh 10st 7 but my pre lockdown weight was 9st 1 and I notice the difference.
Hymbook so glad you are feeling a bit brighter today. I’m glad you’re part of U3A as I’m sure the contact with such groups helps. Hope you enjoy the show. Should be good.
nadateturbe I agree it’s often difficult to remember who said what. Hope you have a good day too and the rest of BD.

Candy hi, glad my tip helped. I either do that, or write each person separately.
I'm glad you can cope better now with missing your son. Family relationships have changed for many. I often saw my mum more than once a week.
I understand how you feel energy wise. I take vitamin D in winter. B12 is supposed to help too. It's hard not having normal energy levels, and hard to increase it.

Scaredycat glad your holiday is going well. Don't worry about not posting. Just enjoy yourself. xx

Doodle I hope your energy levels pick up. I doubt they will if you eat even less than 800 calories. You will lose it, just be patient. A sensible diet will maintain the weight loss. Although you need a little exercise as well, that's the difficult bit.
Hope you enjoy your meal out.

HVDY your boat "trip" made me laugh.
You're right, there isn't a quick fix diet. I cut down on carbs, didn't cut-out completely, cut up desserts, (almost!). Sensible diet imo is the way to go.

Hymnbook sounds like a nice day out, U3A is good. I love theatre.
I hope your test results are OK.

Sweetpeasue if I had your pains I think I would be screaming. You manage so well.
I too was baptised. (Dunked in the water).
I used to be quite extreme (not sure that's the right word). More moderate now..I hope you've been ok today. xx

EllieAnne I'm glad you have groups and can keep busy. Your home life sounds intolerable. Does your husband realise that. Not being nosy, just wonder why it has to be like this. My Dson who lives close doesn't visit often. I just get on with it. I think many families are like that.

Wyllow3 It's good you're in touch with family on WhatsApp. Hope you're OK, sending love.x

Thank you for love and sending it back, all BD's.

Just a quicky. Doodle of course I care that's the great thing about GN you become to care about people just through their words. Because here you can be yourself warts and all . Talk about whatever happens to you without fear of judgement. I know not all threads are like this one . But all the threads I am on people are like here they care about eachother.

Like I have said before. None of you realise how strong you are and how special . No one is ever unkind . And what you are all going through you show compassion for others. And that is very special and shows what a wonderful group you are . For all your mental and physical pain you are going through and worry about family members. Your kindness and help shine through . I never say what I don't mean as I have a crap memory so never tell lies as I couldn't remember if I did then got found out.

You are stronger than you think it shows daily in your posts. So glad Wyllow let's everyone know she is still here and that takes strength for her to do that. Also she knows how much we would worry if she suddenly disappeared.

Never put yourself down . Like I keep saying your are stronger than you think . I see that even if you don't . 🤗

I read this thread tho haven’t contributed. And not sure how to start a new thread. I wrote last week about zopiclone but it didn’t work because I was up fairly regularly in the night. It was replaced by mirtazapine and after 2 nights I am sitting here not knowing/doing anything. It was about 6 weeks ago I wasn’t sleeping thru night but still thinking quite clearly. What have you done/what would you do????

Not very clear on last message. (Panicking) Really want to know if anyone has taken mirtazapine and how they got on with it. Thanks

Fishwife I can't help you but someone here will. Try and relax it's easier said than done but you will get help here. It's taken courage for you to post feel proud you have reached out. 💐

Fishwife I'm on Mirtazapine and have taken it for about 6 years. I started on 15mg, at night. That was increased to 30mg but didn't have much effect. It was increased to the highest dosage of 45mg (night), and for the first few days of that I experienced a sort of euphoria and felt I could have run around the block (not that I did). I've always taken it about an hour before bedtime, and it makes me drowsy enough to sleep. I still wake a couple of times for the loo, though. If I were you, I'd try to stick with it.

Is it to help you sleep? Perhaps you need a smaller dose, or take it earlier.

Fishwife Although Mirtazapine may help you sleep its usually prescribed as an anti-depressant which is fine if you're depressed. If you are concerned about any troubling side effects I think you should tell your Dr. Depression can certainly cause insomnia. I had Zopiclone on repeat for a few yrs a long time ago but, like a lot of 'sleeping tablets', these days are usually only prescribed short term.
Hope you can get these meds sorted out as the worry about them must be causing anxiety too. Take care.

Fishwife As you've posted on Black Dog, I assumed you've been diagnosed with depression and/or anxiety?

Evening all. What a day. Torrential rain. We’ve not been out. Going for lunch with DS 1 tomorrow so hoping the weather will be better.
nadateturbe thank you we had a really nice meal out. More like 8000 calories than 800 but it was really good. I am cutting back on carbs. No bread, pasta or rice.
Exercise is a problem. I am using my stepper several times a day but my legs ache so much I don’t seem to have the energy for anything else. Hope you are feeling a bit better now.
Whiff you are quite right. It’s amazing how much of a bond can develop between people who’ve never met. Sharing life experiences with others requires an element of trust between us even if we don’t know each other, we trust the others to be sympathetic and supportive and not condemning. It is a lovely group and you are one of us. 😊
Fishwife sorry I can’t be of help but so pleased others have had experience of the drug you mention and can offer support.
Sweetpeasue and HvDY glad you can both help. How have you been today?

Doodle good evening I'm never keen on giving advice, but I wonder for now, would you be better walking than stepping, or at least do less stepping. Walking would help you lose weight more than stepping. (I can't remember why you decided to do stepping, I remember us talking about bungalow legs )I have cut down on carbs, not stopped completely. I think we require some carbs in our diet, for energy.
Hope you enjoy lunch tomorrow and find something that has a few less calories 😁.