Covid booster

Primrose53

undines

Absolutely not. Experimental technology, all of it. I recall during the first summer of Covid several experts on the BBC saying there was no way a vaccine could possibly be delivered inside several years because of the need for thorough testing. A few months later all objections are silenced, censored, called 'disinformation' and so many people are getting injected over and over again with - who knows what? Covid has been 'Christmas every day' for the drug companies - that's a quote from a drug company executive. The vax does not stop you getting Covid, and who's to say it makes the infection milder? How would you know? And another point - those who don't get vaccinated have been called 'selfish' but the reverse is the case, if the vax has any effect - arguably it could mean the vaccinated get the infection more mildly, not know they've got it, and become a super-spreaders (wouldn't that be 'selfish'?). And why oh why does no-one talk about supporting your own immune system with a good diet, good supplements, looking after your microbiome etc? That's because no-one makes much money out of it. I wish I had not had the first two vaxes - I wish more people would wake up, realise we are being ruled by the fear generated by the media and take control of our own lives.

That’s a very good post. 👏👏

Any medication we collect from the GP has warnings of possible side effects, minor or serious. With covid jabs you get no such instructions.

No, it's a silly, uninformed post.

Patients can ask for a side effects warning and they'll be given one.

undines

Absolutely not. Experimental technology, all of it. I recall during the first summer of Covid several experts on the BBC saying there was no way a vaccine could possibly be delivered inside several years because of the need for thorough testing. A few months later all objections are silenced, censored, called 'disinformation' and so many people are getting injected over and over again with - who knows what? Covid has been 'Christmas every day' for the drug companies - that's a quote from a drug company executive. The vax does not stop you getting Covid, and who's to say it makes the infection milder? How would you know? And another point - those who don't get vaccinated have been called 'selfish' but the reverse is the case, if the vax has any effect - arguably it could mean the vaccinated get the infection more mildly, not know they've got it, and become a super-spreaders (wouldn't that be 'selfish'?). And why oh why does no-one talk about supporting your own immune system with a good diet, good supplements, looking after your microbiome etc? That's because no-one makes much money out of it. I wish I had not had the first two vaxes - I wish more people would wake up, realise we are being ruled by the fear generated by the media and take control of our own lives.

What a load of tosh! I do wish people would actually try to make educated decisions rather than relying on social media memes, websites of dubious origin, red top rags and gossip! It's not an "experimental technology", it's been around, and has been thoroughly tested, for years, decades, in fact. The ideas behind the mRNA vaccine stars in 1961, and over the years it's been thoroughly studied, adapted, tested and even used. The only change they had to make was to adapt it for the covid virus.

Which particular drug company executive is that "direct quote" attributed to?

How do we know it "makes the infection milder"? Statistics tell us! After the vaccine was rolled out deaths, and hospital admissions, reduced significantly. That wasn't just a coincidence!

It's people like you who helped the pandemic last as long as it did! I'll bet you believe masks don't help either?

I stopped using social media early in 2020 because, as someone with a strong scientific background, I found all the misinformation, conspiracy theories and idiotic ideas just too aggravating to cope with. It seems this forum will be going the same way because my blood pressure can't cope with people's ignorance and total inability, or disinclination, to actually learn what they're spouting nonsense about!

Marydoll

I am due to have both 'flu and Covid vaccinations. I'm immunocompromised and will take every precaution to lessen the effects.

Covid hasn't gone away and it's not as some people are saying, just a cold. For people like me it can be fatal.
I really don't agree with the comment, No justification for it.
In fact, I cannot understand why anyone would think that
My DD, DIL and SIL have already had both on the advice of clinicians, to try and keep me safe.
My son will have both next week.

It's a no brainer!

I couldn't agree more. I had my flu jab last week, and my Covid booster on Monday - several friends have recently had Covid and been quite poorly. My DD - a Community Nurse - says that it's spreading rapidly at the moment, so why on earth do you not want to protect yourself (& others)?

What’s the point of having something that dosen’t work !
Read the research All the jabs are a huge pharmaceutical scam

Tamayra

What’s the point of having something that dosen’t work !
Read the research All the jabs are a huge pharmaceutical scam

Could you please give us some scientific data to support your claim?

My cardiologist worked in Covid ICU and said he had never before seen such horrific lung and heart damage than he witnessed in anti vax patients, who now regretted refusing the vaccine.
I prefer to listen to him, rather than believe the nonsense spouted by anti vaxxers.

I had both vaccinations in the same arm yesterday and feel absolutely fine. For those who think that there is no proof that the Covid jab offers any protection, the fact that the large majority of patients hospitalised were unvaccinated might give you pause for thought. Also of course the NHS and manufacturers have never claimed that their vaccines would prevent anyone from catching it, only that symptoms would be milder.

I had both last week, in the same arm to enable comfortable sleep if sore. I did the same last year too. Maybe I'm lucky but I've never had side effects from any vaccinations. Had the pneumonia one last year and will book in for the shingles one soon.
Too many short memories on here, it's the same with parents not having their children vaccinated against measles.
These are all KILLER diseases

I'm having no more.

Had mine yesterday - one in each arm; slightly sore areas on both today but no other ill effects. Having had an awful attack of flu some years ago I would not miss it, and the Pharmacist said there are a few new strains of covid that have mutated. I don't like having vaccinations but the other option is not one I want to take a chance with.

Mine booked in a couple of weeks (Flu & Covid same time). More than happy to get the vaccinations. I haven't had Covid at all, live on my own and anxious about being unwell. I travel on busy trains and the London Underground a couple of times a week and want all the protection that is out there, thanks.

as covid variants are still very much about and having had all boosters so far, I welcome the latest which I am having later today. why wouldn't I>

Tamayra

What’s the point of having something that dosen’t work !
Read the research All the jabs are a huge pharmaceutical scam

Define ‘doesn’t work’

UKHSA research on effectiveness of various Covid vaccines on mortality, hospitalisation, long term illness, and transmission: www.gov.uk/guidance/monitoring-reports-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination#:~:text=The%20latest%20evidence%20shows%20that,by%2050%25%20to%2060%25.

Wu et al, meta-study December 2022 (see the Lancet, May 2023 for links to full study);

Reducing transmission: effectiveness was 83% at baseline for primary vaccination, reducing to 62% over 100 days. And then:,
“Vaccine effectiveness at baseline was 92% for hospitalisations and 91% for mortality, and reduced to 79% at 224–251 days for hospitalisations and 86% at 168–195 days for mortality… For booster doses, which covered mostly omicron studies, vaccine effectiveness at baseline was 70% against infections and 89% against hospitalisations, and reduced to 43% against infections and 71% against hospitalisations at 112 days or later. “

I can provide shedloads of peer reviewed, laboratory and real world primary studies, and many more meta-studies showing a high effectiveness rate. (I have a friend whose job is leading a team examining the data and using it to recommend forward planning policy.)

Can you please define, and provide peer reviewed evidence, to prove your claim?

Had my 6th jab 1 hour ago, Pfizer. I’m lucky that I’ve never had side effects with either Covid or flu vaccines. I think there is a risk in anything we do but after so many people have died from Covid I wouldn’t hesitate to get as protected as possible.

I’ve just had my Covid & flu jabs today, Pneumovax yesterday. We are so fortunate in this country to have the opportunity for immunisations, it would be foolish not to take them up, for the sake of ourselves and others.
It will be far more costly in all sorts of ways if you contract severe Covid and end up on a ventilator. My friend’s husband sadly died from Covid, he was only in his early 70s.

Sorry, undines but you are spouting total rubbish.

Well said, a definite load of Tosh! I’m surprised that such poorly informed views exist in this forum.

I would have the booster if I could but this year I don't qualify. My DH had his yesterday. I paid for my flu jab last week, but this option isn't available for the covid jab.

Any medication we collect from the GP has warnings of possible side effects, minor or serious. With covid jabs you get no such instructions.

What nonsense. We had our jab this week and we were given two leaflets, each with four full pages of information. One from the NHS about the Autumn programme in general, the other specific to the vaccine we had, and giving full details of every known side effect, including how common, or not, each one was.

It’s entirely up to you whether you have the vaccine, but why are you spreading misinformation?

I and my husband have had both on separate days of the last week and both feel better for having done so. Covid is still around in emerging forms and we had our Christmas ruined 4 -odd years ago when we both succumbed to 'flu one Christmas eve. I never want to experience anything like that again so will keep taking the vaccines as they arrive.

Why ever not?

I will NOT have any more Covid jabs. Each time I have the jab I am in bed for 2 or 3 days as it makes me so ill. Covid has mutated now, so it's just like a cold. Anyone who is afraid let them stay inside, and let the rest of us have a normal life. No more isolation or lockdowns. Covid was NO accident. I think the lockdowns and self-isolation was an affront to civil liberties

Had flu jab last week and Covid jab yesterday ...bit of a sore arm for a day with both of them but that's all .
Going on holiday Tuesday thought it good idea to get
Protection before I get on the plane .

I wasn't keen on having another one but a few weeks ago I caught Covid, it led to a chest infection and then pneumonia. I've even had the pneumonia vaccine but the doctor said if you get covid it can still lead to pneumonia. My husband who is 10 years older than me had the over 75's booster a few months ago and he wasn't anything like as poorly as me. So I will definitely be having a booster in a month or so.

How can people believe that vaccination 'Doesn't work' when the facts are there? A neighbour loudly declared she wouldn't be vaccinated, and we were all fools. She then caught it, was off work for almost a year, has kidney and heart damage and her voice is badly affected. Us fools certainly didn't feel like gloating; she is a kind woman and we all felt a great deal of sympathy for her - stubborness and ignorance have wrecked her health.

I am a ward volunteer in a large hospital and two of our four side wards are currently in isolation due to Covid. There are six beds in each. Its very much still a threat and taken very seriously. All the patients on the infected side wards are tested and if positive they have to stay in place with no visitors until they test negative. A very unpleasant scenario for them. None of us know if we might end up in hospital due to an accident or sudden onset condition and the last thing we need in that scenario is the worry of infection, or indeed the illness itself on top of whatever caused us to be there in the first place. I think its so important to continue with any vaccinations offered to protect ourselves and others.