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Tea & Toast Syndrome is dangerous

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jackiehill56 Sun 29-Oct-23 15:55:44

I recently had a short stint in hospital because of low sodium levels. The symptoms are weakness, cramps, in limbs. Nausea & dizziness. Brain fog and confusion. Unfortunately it affects the brain mostly, and if untreated can cause coma & death.
It seems that older people no longer have to care for a family, often do not bother to cook, and tea & toast are our 'go to' breakfast or snack. We do not get enough protein. This is then made worse by certain medication, which many of us are on as we get older, resulting in low sodium. This was a wake up call for me, and I think all older people should be aware.

welbeck Sun 29-Oct-23 16:03:55

thank you. it's certainly something to think about.

annsixty Sun 29-Oct-23 16:23:42

This has been highlighted recently by a Dr , may have been Micheal Moseley , I can’t recall.
It gave me a wake-up call as I can resort to tea and toast or breakfast cereal when I just “ can’t be bothered “.
I had boiled eggs for lunch today.

Whiff Sun 29-Oct-23 16:49:14

jackiehill I was brought on cheap but nourishing food. My father was malnourished as a child many days only having bread and jam or dropping . My mom was brought up on cheap cuts of meat but plenty of veg , dried pulses and pots.

My brother and me where brought up how mom was. We always had 3 meals a day and always a pud after dinner.

My late husband loved his food. Made sure we always had breakfast,lunch and dinner. The children where brought up like me.
I am now 65 and always had 3 meals a day.

I am disabled from birth and because of my health the last 6 years have porridge for breakfast made in the microwave. Lunch is my home made red lentil and whatever soup. The whatever is what I have in the way of veg. I make enough soup for 6 lunches and blitz it with a stick blender . I store it in the fridge and add but if water yo reheat as it thickens in the fridge. My dinner again is made enough for 6 dinners. I eat chicken, Quorn sausages,mince and chicken pieces. Lots of veg and usually pearl barely in the stew or pasta put in last 20 mins . I do make a lasagne which lasts 6 dinners. It's portioned into 6 oven proof dishes to reheat everyday. I have short cuts for everything including baking. I make my own jams , marmalade and chutneys but my way.

Being disabled means I have adapted my cooking even when making fresh meal everyday day when the children where home and my husband was alive. I have been widowed nearly 20 years.

In 2017 after having jaundice and no on depandant on me . I decided to tackle my obesity. I was over 19st. My way of eating I have lost 7 st which I realised was a marathon not a sprint. Lost it 2 years ago . Still trying to lose the last stone. I was size 32 now 16.

Eating my way means I never have to worry about not having a nourishing meal in the fridge everyday.

It's not just older people who don't eat healthy lot of to younger people don't they really on ready meals or take away. Cooking isn't hard and anyone can do it. They just to want to do it . Cooking from scratch is cheaper and using left overs just needs a bit of imagination.

Retread Sun 29-Oct-23 16:56:56

That's interesting Whiff. 😊

I like food (and cooking) so much I don't think I'll ever "not bother to eat".

Elusivebutterfly Sun 29-Oct-23 17:01:24

I have had low sodium for a long time, it's not due to lack of protein or a balanced diet for me. I do now add salt to cooking which has raised my sodium levels a bit.

Norah Sun 29-Oct-23 17:03:57

I love to cook, easily spend half the day in the kitchen. However I'm not a big eater - so, I eat lots of healthy protein with my carbs.

Perhaps peanut butter or houmous on your toast?

RosiesMaw Sun 29-Oct-23 17:54:49

That’s depressing.
I love hot toast, dripping with that butter with salt crystals (perhaps that boosts my sodium levels) and maybe honey.

Urmstongran Sun 29-Oct-23 18:02:22

Seems you can continue to enjoy that tea and toast Maw (sounds lush btw!) just not 3 tines a day.
😁

Jaxjacky Sun 29-Oct-23 18:21:23

I too have low sodium and am banned from taking Omeprazole as it lowers it further, it’s a balance between bp, not helped by too much salt and keeping my levels ok.
We eat well, erring towards low carb/fat, lots of fresh veg.

RosiesMaw Sun 29-Oct-23 18:23:27

Urmstongran

Seems you can continue to enjoy that tea and toast Maw (sounds lush btw!) just not 3 tines a day.
😁

Four?

Urmstongran Sun 29-Oct-23 18:52:52

🤣

M0nica Sun 29-Oct-23 19:12:03

i love my food, I have always loved my food and when I have lived alone I have always had three good meals a day,

Because of a medical condition I had as a child I have always been conscious of making sure that i am eating a healthy diet; plenty of fibre, plenty of liquids and plenty of exercise.

I find it difficult to envisge a situation when I would be reduced to just living on tea and toast. I do not like supermarket bread and I am really not wild about tea.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 29-Oct-23 19:17:01

I just have a slice of toast and low fat spread, and coffee for breakfast. OH has Weetabix (yuk). I usually just have soup for lunch. OH has a variety of things with plenty of protein. Always a meat or fish-based meal with plenty of veg in the evening. I don’t enjoy cooking and know that if I was on my own I would just have toast and something/ baked potato/soup. Some protein from eggs or cheese but not enough. I envy those who enjoy cooking a delicious, nutritious meal for one. That will never be me.

merlotgran Sun 29-Oct-23 19:47:00

Do these elderly people put nothing on their toast other than butter or spread?

Marmite = sodium
Peanut butter = protein

Not ideal of course but are we talking about very elderly people or those who just can’t be bothered?

coco12 Sun 29-Oct-23 20:10:24

Eaten tea and toast all my life but I do use salt in cooking and definitely not short of it

Blossoming Sun 29-Oct-23 21:01:08

RosiesMaw

That’s depressing.
I love hot toast, dripping with that butter with salt crystals (perhaps that boosts my sodium levels) and maybe honey.

Same here Maw, now thinking about crumpets oozing butter!

RosiesMaw Sun 29-Oct-23 21:51:16

Live dangerously, Blossoming ! 😈😈😈

nanna8 Sun 29-Oct-23 22:46:40

Just tucking into brekkie of tea and fruit bread toast. I don’t use much salt in cooking because I thought it was bad for you but perhaps I should add a little more.

Callistemon21 Sun 29-Oct-23 22:58:01

RosiesMaw

That’s depressing.
I love hot toast, dripping with that butter with salt crystals (perhaps that boosts my sodium levels) and maybe honey.

My favourite breakfast!
It has to be white bread too (farmhouse) which is even worse with apricot conserve or homemade bramble jelly.
And tea.
Sometimes I'll have Greek Yogurt with fruit and honey.

However, I do eat protein, vegetables and fruit too.

Callistemon21 Sun 29-Oct-23 23:00:16

nanna8

Just tucking into brekkie of tea and fruit bread toast. I don’t use much salt in cooking because I thought it was bad for you but perhaps I should add a little more.

envy Australian raisin bread is the best! There's nothing quite like it here in the UK.

nanna8 Sun 29-Oct-23 23:01:06

Homemade bramble jelly- yum oh !

Callistemon21 Sun 29-Oct-23 23:08:48

And blackcurrant jelly, even tastier!!

jackiehill56 Mon 30-Oct-23 06:57:58

That's interesting, I have taken Omeprazole for over 20 years, they didn't mention it at the hospital at all. I am back there this morning to check if my levels are good, and I will certainly ask the question. They are blaming it on a combination of blood pressure medication. Thanks for pointing this out, what do you take instead of Omeprazole?

loopyloo Mon 30-Oct-23 07:08:43

Not sure if toast causes drop in sodium as it has quite a bit of salt.
Think the meds are the problem here.