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Eating nuts in enclosed spaces

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ordinarygirl Tue 25-Jun-24 15:31:18

The mother of the girl who died from an allergy to sesame seeds (contained in a bagette) has slammed an advert when it shows somebody eating a a peanut bar on a plane. I fully accept that to have an allergy ( not an intolerance) must be awful. However, is it fair to ban other people from eating nuts whilst on a plane ? For vegans, it is usually an easy option for a snack or meal as caterers don't provide anything for vegans to eat. If travelling from home, then it is easy to take a sandwich but when coming home from a holiday then it is not the case. Hence the purchase of a nut bar. As far as I know there are no restrictions on what people can eat on a plane - I wish there was (when it is smelly meat or eggs). So the questions are - a) should there be a ban on nuts - like smoking? b) The chances of meeting someone with an allergy must be low , so is it fair?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 17:46:49

MissAdventure

Did anyone see the damage done to a young woman who worked on the 'This Morning' programme a good few years ago?,

Up,until seeing it, I would have thought it was a big fuss, but she was left in a terrible state.

It was on a plane, too

We have the same physiotherapist, it’s heartbreaking to see her.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 17:48:56

We flew with BA last week, as soon as we were seated the steward offered us a packet of mixed nuts to accompany our drinks, I was rather taken aback…

Marydoll Tue 25-Jun-24 17:55:43

There is difference between being allergic to perfumes (Certain ones can cause me to have an asthma attack) and suffering anaphylaxis due to a peanut allergy.This is often fatal.

I have also heard of people with peanut allergies also being allergic to sesame seeds.
My son couldn't tolerate E nos. either, but they didn't cause anaphylaxis. I spent half my time in the supermarket reading labels to check the ingredients.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 17:59:39

MaryDoll I know what you mean about perfumes, I have sat on a plane with my pashmina firmly held over my nose and mouth, fortunately family know what smells set of my asthma.

welbeck Tue 25-Jun-24 18:05:50

sg.news.yahoo.com/airline-kicked-family-off-plane-105229493.html#:~:text=INSIDER-,An%20airline%20kicked%20a%20family%20off%20the%20plane%20after%20they,when%20the%20crew%20refused%20to&text=A%20family%20was%20removed%20from,family%20made%20its%20own%20announcement.

welbeck Tue 25-Jun-24 18:07:34

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48228134#:~:text=Karanbir%20Cheema%2C%2013%2C%20died%20after,was%20%22simply%20not%20thinking%22.

Greenfinch Tue 25-Jun-24 18:10:40

Peanuts and all nuts have the same effect on my adult son. His throat and lips swell up and he has to keep drinking pints of water so that his throat does not close up completely. He is not affected by other people eating nuts in his presence but other people could be.It is too big a risk to take and I commend the airlines which have banned nuts.

BlueBelle Tue 25-Jun-24 18:12:38

For crying out loud can’t people eat other things why do you have to eat nuts on your journey are you really saying there is nothing that will bring your blood sugar up except nuts Ekwa
My friend doesn't eat nuts when her blood sugars go low sometimes very low
It’s totally selfish and I can’t believe people can even imagine that they have a right to eat nuts on a plane goodness me the first two posts shocked me, such selfishness

MissInterpreted Tue 25-Jun-24 18:30:47

That's what I said too, BlueBelle - no-one is going to starve on a plane journey just because they can't eat nuts. Plenty of other snack options...

LOUISA1523 Tue 25-Jun-24 18:40:20

If there was an announcement before boarding not to eat nuts thats would be fine to me ....would throw away any 8 might have just in case....otherwise I wouldn't think twice about eating them

winterwhite Tue 25-Jun-24 18:49:41

I assume that the OP simply didn't know that nuts can have such an affect on the air around, esp in aeroplanes. In fact I didn't know it myself.

I thought she was rather over-indignant herself in the first place, but there's no need to respond as though she was writing in full awareness of these life-threatening implications.

welbeck Tue 25-Jun-24 19:16:24

i'm surprised that people don't know how utterly serious this can be.
there's been such a lot of publicity concerning it, esp recently.
i think this needs to be taught in schools, at an early age.
i'm sure the boy who threw a slice of cheese at his fellow pupil did not intend to kill him.
it's ignorance, which can be deadly.
and perhaps complacency, which is harder to understand, as is blind self-centredness.

growstuff Tue 25-Jun-24 19:28:50

EkwaNimitee

No, it’s not fair or right, first nuts then what next?
My emergency travelling stash-for a low blood sugar episode or meal not turning up-includes fruit and nut bars. I had to use them yesterday on a train journey.
I can’t imagine what non-perishable items could be substituted.

Nuts are low carb, so aren't that good for low blood sugar. Try dried fruit or boiled sweets.

Freya5 Tue 25-Jun-24 19:35:18

No nuts, a flight should be a great experience for all, nuts are not at all necessary on them. Unfortunately you have to trust the airlines that they won't inadvertantly bring them on, hidden in whatever processed goods they give out to all and sundry.

Marydoll Tue 25-Jun-24 19:46:50

If you had experienced the trauma of seeing your child suffer an anaphylactic episode, but thankfully survive, you would do anything to prevent it happening again.
I am saddened by some of the posts on this thread. 😪

Smileless2012 Tue 25-Jun-24 19:54:54

We used to take regular flights to Florida and on several occasions an announcement was made that nuts wouldn't be served, and anyone who had some was requested not to open them while they were on the plane.

There are plenty of other things available so doing without nuts is no hardship.

I feel for anyone who has a child or themselves has such an extreme and potentially life threatening allergy.

EkwaNimitee Tue 25-Jun-24 19:57:31

growstuff my bars are pressed cashews and fruit paste so good and very portable in a handbag. Sugar is no good as it causes a surge of insulin which rapidly drops blood sugar down.
I don’t eat nuts or peanuts for the problem but thanks for your suggestion.

flappergirl Tue 25-Jun-24 20:05:34

Germanshepherdsmum

Will restaurants stop serving anything containing nuts? They are enclosed spaces.

The difference is that you can ask a restaurant in advance about their allergy policy or check online. If they serve nuts or cannot guarantee cross contamination (which they have every legal right to do) then you can choose another restaurant or stay at home.

If you need to travel by air you cannot pick and choose your aeroplane.

growstuff Tue 25-Jun-24 20:10:00

EkwaNimitee

growstuff my bars are pressed cashews and fruit paste so good and very portable in a handbag. Sugar is no good as it causes a surge of insulin which rapidly drops blood sugar down.
I don’t eat nuts or peanuts for the problem but thanks for your suggestion.

There are bars available with no nuts. I assume you're diabetic. What do you think fruit paste is, if not sugar?

flappergirl Tue 25-Jun-24 20:10:31

Meant to add that I really can't see that going without peanuts on a flight is much of a hardship. Rather a first world problem me thinks and a strange thing to have a fit of the vapours about.

I'd go further and ban alcohol on planes actually.

MissInterpreted Tue 25-Jun-24 20:21:39

With you on that one, flappergirl.

LucyLocket55 Tue 25-Jun-24 20:37:21

A school friend of my daughter died as she accidentally ate something with nuts in it, two Epipens worth of adrenaline didn’t save her as the needles weren’t long enough to penetrate through her jeans. After her death, the needles were made longer.

Her name was Poppy Harvey and as I type I can see her face in my mind. It was 15 years ago.

Marydoll Tue 25-Jun-24 20:43:39

That is horrific LucyL. That was my worst nightmare.
My MIL and my DH's siblings were too afraid to babysit my son, in case something happened.
My mother, a former nurse, was the opposite. She was very protective of him and they formed a very close bond. So much so taht he named his daughter after her.

Greenfinch Tue 25-Jun-24 20:46:53

That is so sad LucyLocket. There are so many hidden dangers. My son was desperately ill after his graduation having inadvertently eaten a chocolate brownie containing almond essence. Our local Chinese restaurant will cook some of his meal separately and are at pains to tell him what is safe and what is not but this is not possible everywhere. He will never eat a dessert when out because of the hidden dangers.

flappergirl Tue 25-Jun-24 20:47:35

MissInterpreted

With you on that one, flappergirl.

Indeed MissInterpreted.

If people can't go without peanuts or a gin and tonic for a few hours there's something very wrong with them, and I speak as someone who actually likes both!