UTI not going away! Help

Yup. Vaginal oestrogen and plenty of fluid helped me enormously.

Do NOT restrict in any way your fluid intake (except for alcohol) the more you can drink, the better it can help to flush out the system.
If ab's are not working, then the chances of something you can buy over the counter doing so is minimal.
Cranberry juice has been shown to have no real help, except that people think it does.

When I had a continuous UTI, over several weeks being treated with different anti-biotics, but not going, I demanded my GP referred me to Urology dept at hospital.

Thank goodness I did, as there, they used a camera up my bladder (not as painful as it sound), and discovered a growth. Two weeks later this was removed under a GA, had to have tests annually for five years as there was a possibility of it growing again - it did not. Now totally discharged from hospital for that, and not UTI in all that time.

I do also use a GP prescribed vaginal HRT pessary twice a week

Im afraid i have an antibiotic resistant uti. Im 87 years and just discharged from hospital after a moderate stroke. I just finished another course of antibiotics and the hospital pathology department found EColi present. Ive had diarrhoea lately and I'm usually constipated.
Because if my stroke i find it hard to remember the name of the antibiotics I've taken. Sorry to mak6so many typos but im desperate for help. Someone on the forum recommended D-Mannose...my sister recommended i take Hiprex again. Any help would be appreciated.

Ooh, you'll have to read down a long way to find the dosage instructions.

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How much D-Mannose should you take for UTI?
how much d-mannose to take
How much D-Mannose should you take for UTI?
With the NHS [ NHS Cystitis ] now mentioning D-Mannose as an alternative way to prevent UTI's from coming back - how much D-Mannose should you take for a urinary tract infection?

Please Note: The information in this article pertains to Waterfall D-Mannose . Not all D-Mannose is created equal. Waterfall D-Mannose is 100% pure D-Mannose, undiluted by additives such as cranberry extract, inactive substances (fillers) or other excipients which may have adverse biological effects.

D-Mannose Dosage
The effectiveness of D-Mannose when used to combat an E. coli infection varies from person to person depending on weight, severity of infection and other biological factors such as gut health, ability to absorb the D-Mannose through the small intestine and pre-existing conditions such as Crohn's disease or SIBO. D-Mannose tablets can be taken with water or your favourite beverage, the powder can also be mixed into your favourite beverage. Avoid urine acidifying beverages such as cranberry juice and alcohol.

When Symptomatic
For rapid relief, ingest three grams of pure D-Mannose with a glass of water every 3 hours, day and night for the first 48 hours. Do not skip the night doses, set your alarm. Gradually reduce frequency over the next few days as symptoms improve. Reduce to prophylactic dose, 2 grams daily, once symptoms have completely subsided.

You may experience 2-3 more flare ups before all embedded bacteria have been removed and your propensity for attacks diminishes. If the infection has reached the kidneys (you may feel lower back pain, sick or have a fever), see your Doctor immediately.

Prophylactic Dose
To help prevent recurrence, ingest two grams of pure D-Mannose with a glass of water once a day. This Randomized Clinical Trial has demonstrated a 2 gram daily dose of pure D-Mannose prevented recurrence of acute cystitis in 85.4% of women with a history of recurrent UTI, performing 4 times better than the prescribed antibiotic.

Yes I bought some d mannose and testing strips also been given estriol cream and started that today. Not started the dmannose yet - got waterfall brand . It says take 4 - is that at once?

I’ve bought d mannose and was going to start that today and the estrogen cream I was given yesterday. Is it ok to take these if you have tested positive for infection again?

Please , please go to the doctor for vaginal HRT .

Why not try a combination of the suggestions here.
Try to get your bladder in good shape and deal with your urine at the same time.

Try the weeing into a cool bath, or pouring a jug of water over the area as you wee.

Take the D. Mannose, and drink cranberry, or clear water.

Start a little notebook, and try to track any progress.

Just to update - I was in hospital last week and they gave me a powder of fosfomycin to take. Let me out on Friday evening said it was gone and it’s back! Or never truly went away. I’m so upset that it’s never going to go! 🙁

Yes, I take D Mannose every day.

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Llamedos13

Following on from all the grans who have recommended D Mannose, I picked up an order today but I’m not sure how much to take. The instructions say to take two 500 ml tablets for one month then 2 a day for up to 10 days if I have a uti. Do I then stop taking them until the next time I feel an infection starting? So little information came with the pills and information on line is very mixed.Thanks for any help or advice you can share

I buy this brand of D Mannose and these are the recommended doses (these are 1000mg tablets)

Sallywally1

Read up on professor malone lee now sadly RIP, who devoted his life to the study of repeat uti. He recommended long term courses of low dose antibiotics. He stated at a low dose there was no resistance to the antibiotic. He also said that the routine urine lab testing performed by the NHS do not show up any infections he said it was ‘not fit for purpose’ and that the urine needs to be studied microscopically. His studies were some years ago and he was not allowed to continue in the NHS but was allowed a private clinic.s his findings are becoming mainstream. Now I was put on his regime by a urologist at an NHS hospital

Yes Sallyw As a chronic UTI sufferer since adolescence his ideas were a breath of fresh air to me.

There is much that is still not known about UTIs but there is more research now about the bladder microbiome. The urine is not sterile as used to be thought. Unfortunately urine testing is still outdated here, and has it been proven that many infections are missed by our system.

I am in a support group, (“Live UTI Free”) which originated in USA, which promotes information and more research, and has many U.K. members. It is difficult to find U.K. Urologists who are interested, or indeed understand chronic UTI. I was lucky enough to find one but he retired.

JamesandJon33

MsBee When you get your UTI sorted, ask your GP to prescribe a low dose vaginal HRT. I had your trouble plus a dreadful allergic reaction to anti biotics. The doctor at the hospital made me promise to ask my GP for the prescription. 3 years later not even a hint of a uti.

I had that same problem. Low dose HRT worked wonders. No infections for over 4 years now.

Read up on professor malone lee now sadly RIP, who devoted his life to the study of repeat uti. He recommended long term courses of low dose antibiotics. He stated at a low dose there was no resistance to the antibiotic. He also said that the routine urine lab testing performed by the NHS do not show up any infections he said it was ‘not fit for purpose’ and that the urine needs to be studied microscopically. His studies were some years ago and he was not allowed to continue in the NHS but was allowed a private clinic.s his findings are becoming mainstream. Now I was put on his regime by a urologist at an NHS hospital

bonnie57, do you take D Mannose daily or just when you feel a UTI is coming on?

I have had repeated UTIs and too many antibiotics.Once the last one cleared, I started taking D-Mannose Complex which has high strength D-Mannose 1000mg,Cranberry Extract 160 mg and Vitamin C 82mg two capsules per day.This I obtained from Think Organic by ordering via Amazon.I also take Optibac a pro biotic again from Amazon.I have now gone 7 months without a UTI which is my best ever.Hope this helps.

Aloe Vera gel was the game changer for me. Just lubricate the area each time you go to the loo. A lot of the discomfort is caused by dryness. I recommended it to a friend who had upped her Vagifem with no positive affect. She was sceptical but it worked for her also. Non invasive and no drugs involved.

Following on from all the grans who have recommended D Mannose, I picked up an order today but I’m not sure how much to take. The instructions say to take two 500 ml tablets for one month then 2 a day for up to 10 days if I have a uti. Do I then stop taking them until the next time I feel an infection starting? So little information came with the pills and information on line is very mixed.Thanks for any help or advice you can share

keepingquiet

MsBee

I think the bug is ecoli in my urine which I have read is the most common one so I thought it would clear within a week or so. Just worried if you have a strain resistant to antibiotics (is that possible?) will you have it for ever?!

E coli comes from the bowel.

E. coli is the most common cause of a uti. It is this that d-mannose targets. I take three easy to swallow capsules every morning. I buy them from Amazon. It reduced my utis by 90%. When I did have one the results showed no E. coli I also took this while on anti biotics as Iwas bewailing the fact the doctor had issued me with only three days medication. I knew this was a recipe for a return of the uti. My daughter repeated that she had a colleague at work who had been told by a hospital consultant to take d-Mannose. She tapped into Amazon and ordered the capsules. Arrived the next day and took them straight away with cranberry. Unlike other episodes that one did not return.

I do find lady’s of our age need vagifem to insert twice a week keeps uti’s and other symptoms at bay . I had that awful feeling that lasted for 9 weeks before I realised and got help

I was plagued by UTIs some years ago; every few weeks I would be on yet another course of antibiotics. I felt utterly miserable. Then, by sheer luck, I spoke on the telephone to a very sympathetic female GP. As well as antibiotics, she prescribed Ovestin cream - to be used internally twice a week for two months, then two months off. I have stuck to this regime since that time and, touch wood, haven’t had another UTI since. Hope this helps.

I read that Cranberry juice is no good, you may as well drink coloured water. The tablets however are effective. I try to avoid antibiotics like the plague as they give me thrush and then have to use Canestan. I do not suffer from UTI's these days. I am on Estrogen only patches (but I don't have a Uterus any more). The things Miss Adventure mentioned struck a cord as I used to suffer dreafully from UTI's as a young teen. My auntie told me to drink loads and to put a rolled bath towel between my legs and if I needed to pee to pee into the towel. She said it was the getting up in the middle of the night was causing distress to only pass a teaspoon of urine. I was drinking some awful stuff called Cystopurin which tasted vile. Anyway I tried the bath towel and it worked! No idea how but for me it just worked!

Lemon barley is still considered helpful.

I think once your bladder is inflamed, you have to go for a multi pronged attack. Ouch!

You can run a jug of cool water over your bits, whilst you wee, sit in a cool bath to do it, or use a cool flannel when passing urine.

Sometimes your bladder is so inflamed that you get the urge to to go as soon as it begins to fill.

Vaginal oestrogen has absolutely changed my life. I was plagued by recurring UTIs until a fabulous doctor prescribed me estriol cream. No more UTIs - which is a double blessing as I have stage 3 kidney disease now.