Dangerous Dogs Attack

Do they ever do anything, any of them? It’s just knee jerk reactions and sound bites.

Hope you feel better soon

They've had a whole four weeks.
You'd think they'd be on top of dangerous dogs, rioters, immigration already.

It's not as if they have anything else to do.

MissAdventure

They've had a whole four weeks.
You'd think they'd be on top of dangerous dogs, rioters, immigration already.

It's not as if they have anything else to do.

😄

Four weeks into a new job I used to think I was on top of my brief if I knew peoples names and where the toilet was.

I don’t think it went far enough where XL Bully dogs are concerned.
I would like to see them all euthanised as the safer option.

Actually I meant under Rishi Sunak when it was much discussed. I lost a few months due to serious illness but catching up now and what they have written seems just like words on a page, meaningless.

I would like to see the current government doing something to change this but as they're so new and have to sort out all the other messes that have been left....and at the moment with all the rioting it's not likely.

Ah, apologies, then.

I lose swathes of time, too.

Hope you're on the mend now
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MissAdventure

They've had a whole four weeks.
You'd think they'd be on top of dangerous dogs, rioters, immigration already.

It's not as if they have anything else to do.

Slackers, all of them.

It is the breeders who are at fault!

OnwardandUpward

Actually I meant under Rishi Sunak when it was much discussed. I lost a few months due to serious illness but catching up now and what they have written seems just like words on a page, meaningless.

I would like to see the current government doing something to change this but as they're so new and have to sort out all the other messes that have been left....and at the moment with all the rioting it's not likely.

Sorry, I will be serious. Hope you're feeling better now.

We've already got a Dangerous Dogs Act in place, this was just an amendment to it, I think.

In the UK, five breed types have now been identified as dangerous or unmanageable. These are the Pit Bull Terrier, Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasileiro and, most recently, Bully XL dogs. Despite the term banned breeds, deciding whether a dog should be banned is based on its appearance and behaviour rather than its name. For example, if your dog displays characteristics similar to those of a Pit Bull Terrier, it may be considered a banned breed.

As XL Bully dogs are not a specific breed, it could be difficult to identify one.

There are conditions to owning existing dogs as set out well on this website:

www.myfamilyvets.co.uk/banned-dog-breeds-explained#:~:text=In%20the%20UK%2C%20five%20breed,most%20recently%2C%20Bully%20XL%20dogs.

My neighbour and I were arguing about discussing XL bullies a month or so ago.

We were both pretty unsure about the law.

All I will say is that someone in my block got one, kept it mostly in the kitchen, then passed it on to someone else.

So that's three homes the poor thing has had in it's short little life.

There should have been an amendment to the Dangerous Dogs act that gives more protection to the public, and in return the dogs are less likely to be given the opportunity to attack (then be euthanased)
It would not be too difficult to make it law to put a muzzle on.

It's not always the dogs, but bad owners and prison is not an answer when our jails are already overcrowded. The only sensible answer is to ensure that no dogs attack in the first place by making the conditions of keeping those dogs to be enclosing gardens and muzzling dogs in public spaces.

It should be against the law to keep a dog in a flat without access to a garden. Things should be better regulated, but that takes a government that's not overwhelmed with rioting and is committed to public safety, to be determined to prevent attacks.

In Norway dogs must be on leads in public places. Notices make it clear that if you are the owner, you are responsible for the dog's behaviour and are to blame if it attacks or threatens any person or other animal. It is possible there to walk along a road or in a park without worrying about the danger of a threatening dog suddenly appearing - something which is not always possible in this country. There are not nearly so many dogs as there are here and they are on leads and also the pavements are much cleaner.

How have we got to the stage where the dog is thought by so many to be more important than human children (see various threads on GN)? I have known some lovely dogs, but I am in no danger of promoting their interests above those of the young of my own species.

(Puts on tin hat and hides behind sofa.)

In the country park near where I live part of it is only available to people with dogs on leads as there are sheep grazing nearby. I have yet to see any dogs on leads and I visit most days.
There was a dog fight there a few days ago with a dog being badly bitten.
Owners need to be more responsible and nobody should have a dangerous dog.

Enforcement is the issue, both for existing laws and those proposed.

Oldbat1

It is the breeders who are at fault!

Breeders and owners!

Wheniwasyourage

In Norway dogs must be on leads in public places. Notices make it clear that if you are the owner, you are responsible for the dog's behaviour and are to blame if it attacks or threatens any person or other animal. It is possible there to walk along a road or in a park without worrying about the danger of a threatening dog suddenly appearing - something which is not always possible in this country. There are not nearly so many dogs as there are here and they are on leads and also the pavements are much cleaner.

How have we got to the stage where the dog is thought by so many to be more important than human children (see various threads on GN)? I have known some lovely dogs, but I am in no danger of promoting their interests above those of the young of my own species.

(Puts on tin hat and hides behind sofa.)

It’s only my opinion, and I appreciate where you’re coming from, but dogs (most dogs) do need exercise off the lead and to run free.

Some enterprising farming/landowner folks around here have started to rent out portions of their fields, totally dog proofed, for a couple of hours, up to 4 dogs at a time (friends or same family)

This seems like a great idea.

Wheniwasyourage

In Norway dogs must be on leads in public places. Notices make it clear that if you are the owner, you are responsible for the dog's behaviour and are to blame if it attacks or threatens any person or other animal. It is possible there to walk along a road or in a park without worrying about the danger of a threatening dog suddenly appearing - something which is not always possible in this country. There are not nearly so many dogs as there are here and they are on leads and also the pavements are much cleaner.

How have we got to the stage where the dog is thought by so many to be more important than human children (see various threads on GN)? I have known some lovely dogs, but I am in no danger of promoting their interests above those of the young of my own species.

(Puts on tin hat and hides behind sofa.)

I absolutely adore all the dogs I’ve ever had, but never ever would they be out before our children.

Put! Not out!

XL bullies have to be neutered so (if all owners comply) will die out rather than the 10000-15000 of them being forcibly euthanased.
There are many other rules, muzzled, walked on lead by adult, registered with Defra and insured etc. All listed below

www.gov.uk/guidance/ban-on-xl-bully-dogs

Dogs should be on a lead in urban and residential districts and taken to an enclosed dog field to run free. There are rentable spaces for this. If people love their (bigger) dogs and are able to look after them adequately, they will have considered a safe space to run freely and not mind spending the money.

Smaller or older dogs may be happy to run around a reasonable sized garden, but no dogs should live in flats or places without gardens.

I walk my dog from the door, I'm lucky we have a variety of interesting walks. Our nearest rentable field is 20 minutes' drive away & not accessible by public transport. Do you want me to be making that journey twice a day by car? I could afford the petrol (not the time) but I couldn't justify using the car in that wasteful way. Mine's a young spaniel, he needs to chase balls & use some energy.He doesn't bother other dogs or people although he will play if another dog approaches him to play.The dog-fields are very useful if dogs are not reliable off the lead but not a practical proposition for everyday excercise.

I think this Regulation was necessary to bring XL Bullies within the same regime as breeds covered by the 1991 Act, when nobody had heard of this particular breed. The Act was always a bit of a dog's dinner, from before it was even a Bill, with Home Secretary Kenneth Baker demanding that something must be done. It was one of those meetings with a cabinet minister that stick in the memory.

And the price at the bottom is what it costs to buy the SI from HMSO.

This is a brilliant idea Cossy!

There should be more of these spaces so others can enjoy them.