Dangerous Dogs Attack

“So, if you get attacked by a dog you ask the owner for their dog licence? Even though all of that information is on the chip. And every dog owner has to be inspected by someone from the LA? How exactly will a dog licence stop people being attacked?”

Every owner has to be checked they have a suitable dog, facilities to keep it and the training to care for it. It will stop irresponsible owners buying a dog and improve dog welfare greatly.
The number of dogs abandoned is a disgrace, licensing is justified on those grounds alone, educating responsible owners would be a big step forward.

David49

“So, if you get attacked by a dog you ask the owner for their dog licence? Even though all of that information is on the chip. And every dog owner has to be inspected by someone from the LA? How exactly will a dog licence stop people being attacked?”

Every owner has to be checked they have a suitable dog, facilities to keep it and the training to care for it. It will stop irresponsible owners buying a dog and improve dog welfare greatly.
The number of dogs abandoned is a disgrace, licensing is justified on those grounds alone, educating responsible owners would be a big step forward.

Do you honestly think that local authorities have the money or the manpower to implement that?

Yours might be doing nothing but lying under a table Onwards but that not been my experience I ve experienced them sitting on chairs at the table, eating off plates on the floor and slurping tea out of the saucer
If you have to bring your dog with you to a cafe for a coffee
eat outside

Oh yes, I’ve seen them come out from under the table and walk as far as the lead allows and once almost fell over a stretched lead.
I like dogs but not where people are eating and drinking.

I wasn’t implying they were dangerous dogs, tho they could be if you trip over one.😁

David49

“So, if you get attacked by a dog you ask the owner for their dog licence? Even though all of that information is on the chip. And every dog owner has to be inspected by someone from the LA? How exactly will a dog licence stop people being attacked?”

Every owner has to be checked they have a suitable dog, facilities to keep it and the training to care for it. It will stop irresponsible owners buying a dog and improve dog welfare greatly.
The number of dogs abandoned is a disgrace, licensing is justified on those grounds alone, educating responsible owners would be a big step forward.

OnwardandUpwards, xl bullies have to be neutured and wear muzzles in public, the aim is to end the breed. One difficulty is it’s a mixed breed so there isn’t a breed standard. I saw a man walking two off lead big shepherd type dogs along with an on lead unmuzzled dog I’d have bet the farm was an XLBullies

I’ve always lived with dogs, from being a baby. As an adult I’ve rescued, fostered and often had 3 of my own. My current dogs are a little gentle show type cocker spaniel, rock solid temperament. My huge young lab isn’t rock solid with other dogs. He’s great with people, loves children and reliable happy dog with my grandchildren
Sadly he’s been attacked three times, Jack Russell x 2, 2 labs whose owner wasn’t in sight and a daft off lead Frenchie, again no owner in sight
My huge lad now reacts if he sees an unknown dog racing towards him.
There are too many irresponsible, frankly clueless people who have no control, no recall and think their dog needs to greet every dog it meets, rather than stay with their handler
So, my lab is now excercise in a safe enclosed field. We play games, do obedience, retrieves and best of all scent work. 15 minute scent work tires them more than an hour running about.
He mixes with dogs he knows with no problem, I miss long walks in the country with him but I’m not prepared to risk him getting himself into trouble if we meet one of the ‘professional’ dog walkers with an unstable pack if 8 off lead.
Apologies for ranting

All reputable breeders will home check potential owners and also question them about suitability for that breed of dog. They will take back the dog at any time of it’s life if the owners have a problem ( a good breeder will always have people that have had their dogs in the past that may want an older dog if they’ve sadly lost one). New laws were put in place to stop unscrupulous breeding; I think breeders have to be registered in some way but am happy to be corrected. Reputable rescue organisations also do home checks and are careful to match the right dog to the right owner. Any dog attack should have a police crime number. And the Safe Neighbourhood Officer at the council should be informed ( ours was very helpful when our dog was attacked). Every dog has to be chipped with owners details and all dogs must wear a collar with a name disc with the owners details when away from home. I don’t honestly know what more the authorities can do although I would like there to be some sort of National advertising campaign to educate people.

MayBee70

David49

“So, if you get attacked by a dog you ask the owner for their dog licence? Even though all of that information is on the chip. And every dog owner has to be inspected by someone from the LA? How exactly will a dog licence stop people being attacked?”

Every owner has to be checked they have a suitable dog, facilities to keep it and the training to care for it. It will stop irresponsible owners buying a dog and improve dog welfare greatly.
The number of dogs abandoned is a disgrace, licensing is justified on those grounds alone, educating responsible owners would be a big step forward.

Do you honestly think that local authorities have the money or the manpower to implement that?

The owners pay for the licensing and policing, it would be a very small part of owning a dog.

This document you have found OnwardsandUpwards has nothing to do with the application of the main dangerous dogs legislation.

However at the beginning of this year ownership of an XL bully dog in the UK was made illegal unless the owner had obtained a certificate of exemption, and no breeding of the dogs was allowed.

This meant that quite a number of dogs, who had never attacked anyone, were handed over to Dog Care organisations, as the owners either could not, or did not want to get a certificate of exemption

The government was clearly concerned to make sure where this happened the organisation taking the dog in should be clearly defined and that those running it were fully competent.

This amendment actually tightens the legislation governing the re homing of dogs, of a now illegal breed. This applies to XL bully dogs owned on 31 Deceber 2023. None of these dogs will have any known history of attacking other dogs or people.

The reason there is a price on the bottom is because this is a pdf , but can it also be bought in printed form, and that is the price you may if you order a paper copy through an approved supplier.

I am sorry you are so unwell and I do hope you feel better soon. Meanwhile do not worry about this amendment to the dangerous dog legislation. It just tightens the definition of a rehoming organisation that can take in XL bully dogs that have no history of attacks, but whose owners do not want the bother of adhering to the new restrictive legislation attached to owning one born before the end of last year.

I personally think every dog, in a public area, be it a park or woods, should be on a lead unless the owner has 100% recall. My dog was taken to puppy class, is obedient and has good recall but due to a few idiots with off lead dogs allowing them to bound up to her, I know she would bolt to get away from them. The times I have had her lead wrapped round my legs with her trying to get away from these disobedient dogs are becoming a regular occurrence. Also most of the owners are nowhere near their dogs so they often don’t see them having a poo so it’s left for some unfortunate person to step in.
There is no pleasure in walking your dog anymore because of selfish morons who walk round on their phones with their dogs racing round all over the place.

bobbydog24, I m with you and so are my experienced dog trainer friends. Even they use safe enclosed fields to exercise their dogs. The walks I’ve loved since I moved here on 1970 are no longer enjoyable. I’m tired of people with no idea about how to care for their dogs treating the, calling them fur babies. Dogs need routines, exercise, stimulation and clear boundaries that are calmly and consistently enforced. They don’t need to run about rushing up to other dogs, children and people who don’t like any dog
Humph

I actually noticed on a local Facebook page someone with an XL Bully asking if other Bully owners would like to meet up in an area where children play to exercise and socialise their misunderstood sweet dogs. Ok it was from last year and never took off but it beggars belief that anyone would have such a stupid idea.

I dislike any dog running up to me or my dog who dislikes it as well.

There are some nuts people!

Dogs who bound up and greet you almost always have owners who say "It OK. He's alright!" as you try to fend off their dog.

Actually, it's not alright, because I'm afraid.

Me too MissA. Another woman killed today.

MissAdventure

Dogs who bound up and greet you almost always have owners who say "It OK. He's alright!" as you try to fend off their dog.

Actually, it's not alright, because I'm afraid.

It’s actually not alright because our dogs, on leads, are reactive!

MissAdventure

Dogs who bound up and greet you almost always have owners who say "It OK. He's alright!" as you try to fend off their dog.

Actually, it's not alright, because I'm afraid.

I agree, it's not alright. I dont want to be licked by someone else's dog. Who knows what they have been eating. If raw food then I think it's salmonella central in their saliva. Even the most clean dog has probably got plenty of bacteria. I'll have my own dogs, but no one elses, thanks.

I don't like big/unknown dogs running up to me because I don't know what they're capable of. My dog has been attacked. I have been painfully mounted by a large and heavy dog!

I’ve just come very close-to petting a huge dog, very beautiful who was muzzled. When i asked if he was violent she said no he’s a big softy but he’s an XL Bully. My face changed. She said don't you thing he's gorgeous and I said yes, but what was she thinking of as she weighed no more than 8 stone. Answer, I can handle him he’s daft. If he turned she couldn't handle him, I thought they were banned. She said its a shame people think like that.

I love animals and am vegetarian for that reason but have no pets as I've neither the time or the inclination. Each to their own but I've stopped going for walks as there's dogs everywhere. It's the ones off lead or on extendable leads running or jumping around barking at and bothering people.

I met a group I did a college course with for coffee Sunday and there was a dog running around. He wasn't harming anybody but barked at me. I was just sitting there.

It's all well and good people saying the dog won't hurt you it's friendly, but others don't know that. They don't know your dog. Then when a dog runs up and I say no loudly the owner takes offence and looks at me like I'm the problem when I'm just walking bothering nobody!

Twice in supermarkets somebody had a dog on a lead.

They should be taken for walks and if you want to let them loose take them to a field where they don't bother others.

The UK prioritises dogs over people. It's madness. Dogs rule and then people wonder why they get out of control.

I’m just ashamed of the behaviour of fellow dog owners.

Even a muzzled dog can injure you. I got a badly bruised arm when a muzzled dog, one of two, jumped at me and hit my arm. The two dogs were nominally in the charge of quite a lightly built woman, who was struggling to control them.

I was merely walking quietly alone along a country footpath in the opposite direction to the dogs and their handler.

MayBee70

I’m just ashamed of the behaviour of fellow dog owners.

It's frustrating when many of us are responsible dog owners whose dogs are well trained and well behaved and who wouldn't dream of letting behave in the manner of some described on here. Unfortunately, some just don't care - and I'm not sure that any amount of rules, laws or licensing is going to cure that. Responsible owners will always comply with those - the irresponsible ones won't.

Agree MissInterpreted.
One of my dogs is reactive on lead when badly behaved off lead dogs run into his face. He’s over 5 stone of pure muscle so needs some holding if he gets upset. He’s a peach of a dog with children and people, plays well with dogs he knows, walks past other dogs nicely on his lead but gets bothered by rude, ill mannered off lead dogs running at him.
If every body had to take Kennel Club type obedience classes, all dog owners would know it’s simple good manners to out your dog on lead, or get it walking at your side when ever you see an on lead dog approaching. Dogs are on lead for a reason. My boy is on lead because he’s big and could knock a child over accidentally, also because after three assaults by other dogs, I can’t guarantee he won’t react if he feels threatened
I fear some dog owners have no idea

Years ago I apologised on behalf of other dog owners to some people on a beach whose son had been terrified by a dog that ran up to him barking with it’s owners totally ignoring what was happening.

Iam64

Agree MissInterpreted.
One of my dogs is reactive on lead when badly behaved off lead dogs run into his face. He’s over 5 stone of pure muscle so needs some holding if he gets upset. He’s a peach of a dog with children and people, plays well with dogs he knows, walks past other dogs nicely on his lead but gets bothered by rude, ill mannered off lead dogs running at him.
If every body had to take Kennel Club type obedience classes, all dog owners would know it’s simple good manners to out your dog on lead, or get it walking at your side when ever you see an on lead dog approaching. Dogs are on lead for a reason. My boy is on lead because he’s big and could knock a child over accidentally, also because after three assaults by other dogs, I can’t guarantee he won’t react if he feels threatened
I fear some dog owners have no idea

I completely agree!