Mounjaro - Fat jab injections

Sorry Mrs we ve got so many threads on this subject do we need another one I think it’s been done to death
Why start a new one why not add to one of the ones already going

They are cheaper than bariatric surgery and treating the long term effects of obesity so I am in favour of them being available on the NHS.

There are older threads BlueBelle but I think with the news today on the prescribing opening up it’s worth another one.
I’m concerned the initial practical problem may that be already stretched GP’s will be tested even more with enquiries and those not understanding the eligibility criteria.
If they are accepted then there is ongoing monitoring, a couple of our local pharmacies are offering Mounjaro and follow ups - for a price, I certainly welcome it being regulated.
I’m not comfortable with the term ‘fat jab’ btw.

My best friend works in an office with a number of women paying out quite a bit for these injections and going out midday for MacDonalds and boasting about how they can eat what they want now

My daughters have friends who are on these jabs but having to pay for them as they do not fit the NHS criteria.
It isn't magic. Their friends have all said they need to eat more healthily and watch portion sizes which begs the question, is it the jab or their improved diet that brings results?

Why does it annoy me? I've spent years trying to eat healthily and keep my weight down. Now people can just get a jab. So why bother?

And what if someone has tried everything and can't shift the weight? It's not always down to being greedy or lazy - some of us are on medication which leads to weight gain, for instance, or may have medical conditions which also cause you to pile on the pounds. I don't know if I'd have the jabs - I think I'd be too worried about the side effects (not to mention the fact that you can't get a GP appointment here for love nor money), but I'm not about to criticise those who do.

I think if you look at the criteria for being prescribed Mounjaro on the NHS, it’s right that the people who will be offered it get the chance to improve their health. A BMI over 40, plus a set number of other serious health problems gives them a pretty high likelihood of dying without help. These are people for whom nothing else has worked.

I take your points.

BlueBelle

My best friend works in an office with a number of women paying out quite a bit for these injections and going out midday for MacDonalds and boasting about how they can eat what they want now

They are an appetite suppressant , the amount you eat will be limited.

Sorry Bluebelle I didn't know threads already running on this or wouldn't have posted.

It was with today's news now available on NHS.

Thanks Jaxjacky.

I don’t think that’s as easy as many seem to think. As with most medications there are side effects that can be unpleasant.
If very overweight people can have a much more productive life and, ultimately, save the NHS some money then I’m all for it.
I wonder what they will do with all those big chairs, beds and trolleys when everyone is thin again?

My friend’s son in law is 50. He is massively obese with a hernia the size of his head. He was a normal weight until he injured his back. He gained loads of weight sitting around and not being able to work. He is unable to exercise. Then he developed depression and gained even more.

They will not operate on his hernia until he loses weight. They will not give him weight loss surgery either.

If anybody deserves weight loss jabs he does.

My understanding is that eligibility for an NHS prescription for Mounjaro will not work like that this year Primrose53. It’s very strictly for people with both a BMI over 40 and four out of five of the following conditions: type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, heart and vascular disease, high cholesterol and obstructive sleep apnoea. The criteria will be re-set on an annual basis.

BlueBelle

My best friend works in an office with a number of women paying out quite a bit for these injections and going out midday for MacDonalds and boasting about how they can eat what they want now

It doesn’t work like that. The person I know who is on Mounjaro - privately, not NHS, needs to lose three stone before surgery. So far he has lost two stone in four months!
His appetite has completely changed. He has a much healthier diet but can only eat half the amount he used to. It’s important to follow a balanced diet and not cut out any food groups. Alcohol is allowed but he has no desire to drink any more than an occasional glass of wine. A fitness and exercise regime is essential.

It’s not an easy quick fix but if it improves the health of the morbidly obese it will save the NHS a fortune.

Yes I believe it's essential that people can have access to it on the NHS. In England 28% of adults are obese and costing the NHS far more than a jab.

I'm about to try mounjaro privately. Since recent health problems my mobility isn't great and I'm really struggling to lose weight. I've been thinking about it for a long time.

I'm at least 3 stone overweight and my bmi is 31, I was wondering last night how much I would need to weigh for it to be 40!

I think anyone who has a bmi over 40 with other health problems would benefit from the injections, if monitored by a GP. Surely this will save the NHS money in the long run.

My cousin had bariatric surgery and has had so many health issues since (4 years ago) must be costing NHS a fortune.

Well hopefully injections will help get me back on track, I'm not expecting a miracle cure

I have two relatives who had weight loss surgery on the nhs. They said it cost 8,000 per op. Yes, there are targets to reach to have the op, you must be a certain weight to be considered, then go through psychological programme. What happened after was they got their calories through drinks and have gone back or more to their previous weight. Also their cousin piled on the pounds in the hope of getting on the programme. So trying to get around the rules.

The wright loss is due to lower consumption. The medication reduces appetite, it doesn’t magically make calories disappear. If you eat the same amount as before you don’t lose weight.

All the other weight loss jabs threads are on diet and exercise forum.

What makes me laugh is people refuse to have covid jab but willing to have these weight loss jabs.

I lost 7st over 5 years still trying to lose the last stone . I am disabled and have heart problems. But willing to put in the hard work . I count calories and exercise daily and go to sit fit class and move it or lose it class.

I was well over 19 size 32.now size 16. Top really a 14 but prefer a 16. After decades of obesity have lot of flabby ,wobbly baggy skin but don't care. Those so called celebs who magically look slim after losing lot of weight have had the skin removed.

Only people who have been honest about having the skin removed is Lisa Reilly and she did it the hard way diet and exercise. A man out of a reality TV series which I don't watch he said he had the skin removed when he lost a lot of weight.

You don’t have to apologise! You have every right to comment on any topic, any time. It is unacceptable for anyone to be telling someone off for posting a comment or creating a thread of conversation!

I have been morbidly obese for decades. Paid £13,000 for a gastric bypass 15 years ago and lost 6 stone. 3 years ago took Ozempic via NHS to try to reverse my diabetes 2, didn't lose anything. Swapped to Mounjaro alongside an NHS referral to Slimming World. Have lost 3 stone since January. Am about to begin a referral to OVIVA, again linked to my diabetes, and hope that this will help me with my final 3 stone. The jabs are not a panacea, they suppress appetite but that is frequently not the reason for weight gain. I am hopeful that my new mindset will continue and help me to shed my excess baggage. I am very grateful for the NHS support I have received from my GP surgery, they didn't just prescribe and let me walk away!

No need to be quite so rude with your response Bluebell the op may not have read or seen other posts, if you don’t like one then scroll past.

BlueBelle

My best friend works in an office with a number of women paying out quite a bit for these injections and going out midday for MacDonalds and boasting about how they can eat what they want now

Why bother to comment on this thread if it being started offends you so much?