Persimmon soap for old person smell

I can only describe the smell of stale and greasy like unwashed hair .
When I was in traction in hospital my hair wasn't washed for weeks and it was foul .
Yesterday when I had a blood test the phlebotomist told me that I smelt fantastic.
I'd done two hours in the garden , had a tepid bath and sprayed myself with some cheap scent from Lidl.
At five quid a bottle-most of them are dupes and are very good value .

Just as well I don't wear perfume any more then - just in case - from the comments given.

Though I've still got a virtually non-existent sense of smell at the moment after having Covid - think it must be around 2 years now I've been waiting for my hearing and sense of smell to get back to normal #sighs. So I'd have no way of telling at the moment re whether perfume was "clinging on".

The only plus side of that being an audiologist who knows his job (compared to two young girls in a Boots audiology department recently - that clearly don't) told me that this loss of hearing is down to "infection" - rather than old age (so presumably the loss of smell is connected to that). So fingers crossed still for getting those things back to normal.

Nonenal has nothing to do with personal hygiene, it obviously doesn't happen to every older person.

V3ra

^Very often people wear an outfit for going out and use perfume, then hang it up for the next time, and by the next time the oils which have transferred from the skin have oxidised and the garment smells awfully stale and the perfume is musty.^

This, exactly.
I shared a room (and wardrobe) on holiday with an elderly relative once and had to discretely wash every garment she'd brought with her 🫢

But wouldn’t that be the case with a younger person’s clothes too, in those circumstances. Stale perfume on unwashed clothes is bound to smell unpleasant.
I sat next to three young people in the dentist’s waiting room recently and they were quite pongy (while looking gorgeous).

Very often people wear an outfit for going out and use perfume, then hang it up for the next time, and by the next time the oils which have transferred from the skin have oxidised and the garment smells awfully stale and the perfume is musty.

This, exactly.
I shared a room (and wardrobe) on holiday with an elderly relative once and had to discretely wash every garment she'd brought with her 🫢

I’ve been in some stale-smelling houses, and met some unsavoury people, but otherwise haven’t noticed elderly people in general smell badly, so perhaps the effects of 2-Nonenal aren’t universal and most of us can breathe a (fragrant) sigh of relief.

I have a very strong sense of smell.

Justlook up 2-Nonenal poppysmum

Nothing beats giving clothes and body a thorough good wash.
Synthetics do stink if washed on a low temp wash but not dried promptly.

There are a few products to pour into the conditioner compartment of machines some specially for sports type garments.
I bought some persimmon (Sharon fruits) yesterday and will try them later to see if I like the taste/smell
Then might consider the soap.

VenusDeVillendorf

I find most people really smell bad. Young or old! And if they have dogs or cats at home houses and cars smell really bad too.

The problem I think is that people don’t wash their hair or clothes often enough.

Very often people wear an outfit for going out and use perfume, then hang it up for the next time, and by the next time the oils which have transferred from the skin have oxidised and the garment smells awfully stale and the perfume is musty.

Washing hair often can be difficult for some so they just comb it or brush it, not realising that the scalp really smells rancid, and they need a more manageable style, and a more citrus based shampoo for more frequent washing.

animal breath really smells if they have dried food rather than offal or meat, and aren’t adequately hydrated. Drugs need regular bathing too, and houses need to be aired out everyday. Open all those windows wide for an hour in the morning!

Oh dear! You must have a very strong and sensitive sense of smell.

We have dogs, and many of my friends have animals and frequently visiting young GC, none of them or their houses smell (unpleasant) !

Allira

Ps sometimes losing your sense of smell might be a blessing, not a curse!
I'm just off to sniff DH.

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How ridiculous! why should an old person smell? apart from illness dementia etc when personal hygiene may slip they would just smell like anyone else; perfume or aftershave; soap or shower gel etc; hairspray etc

A smell I dislike is people who stink of fabric conditioner. Also the smell of perfume over unwashed clothes.Do you remember at school there were always a few stinkers?

I had a few dates with a man who had an odd smell He had Parkinsons and apparently it can be detected early by the smell.

I wonder if there is something we could put in the washing machine to counteract the effect on t-shirts, pyjamas etc?

Definitely recommend the Japanese soap, it's been hot and sticky today and OH has been working in the garden, gave him a cuddle to thank him for helping me and not a whiff of anything musty. He had absolutely no idea there was a problem until I mentioned it to him. It's nothing to do with lack of hygiene , 2-nonenal is different to normal sweat and can linger on clothes and bodies even after washing, some people have much more of a problem than others.

I do think an awful lot of owners of designer jeans won’t trust the washing machine with them. I’ve bought mushrooms today. I love them and will have any excuse to up them in our diet.

NotSpaghetti

2-nonenal is not the same as "regular" BO, J52

Don’t think I said it was.

My MIL always smelt delicious, right to the end at age 97. My daughters used to breathe in the lovely smell when visiting her. She always used 4711 cologne.

2-nonenal is not the same as "regular" BO, J52

People of all ages smell. The summer seems to bring out males particularly, with body odour. In the winter some smell of clothes that have been worn when cooking chips!
I have a particularly keen sense of smell.

Here is a recent article from the good old Daily Mail which says that if you eat mushrooms four times a week it will eliminate nonenal (old person smell).

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14838493/Old-people-smell-cured-everyday-food-aging.html

Years and years ago I hear that women over 50
Don’t smell
Don’t yell
and Don’t tell
Make of it what you will.

Seapebble

Pinkcosmos - you mentioned "I don't need it yet" but how do you know? With odours I think the last to know is often the source. I get on the bus sometimes during the day and am sure some of the very clean looking smartly dressed passengers don't know.
Same could be said for young guys in the morning in shops and offices- um hello? It's the morning fella - no excuse.

I don't suppose I do know. I am sure my DH would have commented if I had an 'old person' smell. He is definitely not nose blind

As other posters have said, not washing every day, not washing hair, wearing clothes that haven't been washed regularly will all contribute - at any adult age.

My DS has been using the local bus service recently. He says the smell is terrible when the bus is full.

Getting more and more concerning as I read on......

I thought it was just the looks that went as one got older - cue for watching those YouTube videos of famous women as they get older, ie to see just how old they are before they stop looking like themselves iyswim. Not gonna give an accurate picture - literally - because a lot of them will be doing stuff like plastic surgery on themselves. Given that proviso and attractive women are still attractive in their 30's, things start looking a bit more "tired" in their 40's, visibly older in their 50's and unrecognisable by about 70.

Not a reassuring picture all round......I can see some benefits to wearing that "shroud" (aka yashmak) - ie hide the lot - even though anyone who ever wanted me in one would have an obvious death wish and me making sure to wear the briefest clothes I have next time I spotted him......

Granmarderby -I think that the consumption of skunk is so widespread that it cannot be monitored by the police .
I can smell it in my neighbourhood ,where I shop and if I ride on the bus .
I employed a DIY guy who cane very highly recommended by my local Catholic Church.
At first , he seemed exceptional and after a while I found his behaviour frightening and unpredictable .
He was a very heavy consumer of skunk .