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Herbal remedies and homeopathy.

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kircubbin2000 Wed 22-Oct-25 12:18:42

My blood pressure is still quite high even after going on new tablets. Has anyone any experience of alternatives to try?

CariadAgain Thu 30-Oct-25 14:26:30

janeainsworth

Cariadagain
I've been following that pretty closely - and from what Kate Shemirani says = one of the things they did to her daughter was the adrenaline her daughter and her had both decided against and yet they used a noticeable amount of it. From what I read - that alone can kill people

Of course adrenaline can kill people. It has also saved many lives.

Kate Shemirani was removed from the Nursing & midwifery Council Register in 2021 for spreading dangerous misinformation about the Covid vaccines.
So I wouldn’t believe a word she says.
I’m more inclined to believe Paloma’s brothers’ and the mainstream media’s version, that Kate brainwashed her daughter against having the conventional treatment which could have saved her life.

I don't recall what Kate specifically said re the Covid jabs - as I read pretty widely amongst objective medical people about them and that confirmed my decision not to have those jabs. As far as I can see she was trying to get the facts out there - and not "spreading misinformation".

Right now she seems to be basically focusing on "Do NOT be an organ donor - they don't make sure/can't really make sure you are actually dead before they start the 4/5 hours cutting you open to take your organs. Brain death is not death real death" and she's absolutely right (from so much I've read elsewhere and the horror stories about people who "came to" whilst they were cutting them open to grab the organs)". There was a particularly bad horror story in the mainstream newspapers last year about the man in America that was trying hard to let the surgeons know he was still alive - whilst they were trying to get his organs - and his sister had to save him. He is still alive now, living with his sister, injured and traumatised by their attempt to grab his organs.

So I don't agree with some comments she makes - but she's one of a noticeable number they tried to discredit for speaking out against Covid/the jabs/etc.

Caleo Thu 30-Oct-25 15:49:11

janeainsworth

Caleo A centralised truly nationalised NHS would be centrally controlled as to the pharmacopeia available. And in other important respects such as communications.
There has always been a tension between central control and how much autonomy the regional health authorities (or whatever title they have now) should have.
In some ways regional autonomy is a good thing. Northumbria Healthcare trust (my local one) was until recently run by Sir James Mackey and he was responsible for a number of innovations which proved beneficial to patients. Innovation would be limited if control was exerted solely by a central body.

Did Sir James Mackey halt privatisation of pharmaceuticals?

E.g. recently the GP practice sent me items on my repeat prescriptions list -, expensive PRN items which I neither needed nor ordered. The only reason I can think of is that the GP practise is rewarded for using more of their products.

(The items in question that I neither needed nor ordered would cost ~ £50 from Amazon. )

Caleo Thu 30-Oct-25 16:02:13

Influence of pharmaceutical companies

Pharma companies cannot legally “pay GPs” directly for prescribing, but there are indirect mechanisms that can create financial or reputational incentives:

Discounts & rebate schemes

Some companies offer rebates to NHS trusts or supply chain partners based on volume purchased.

If a GP practice or local trust buys more of a particular brand, the system may get temporary cost offsets.

Sponsorships & consultancy

GPs may be invited to attend sponsored conferences, training, or advisory boards.

While direct payment for prescribing is illegal, such sponsorships can create soft incentives to favor certain medicines.

“Preferred medicines” lists

Some pharma companies negotiate with local formularies to make their brand the first-line option, sometimes alongside small non-clinical perks (training, patient support programs).

Branded generics

A GP prescribing a branded generic instead of a standard generic can cost the NHS more, and the manufacturer may retain a larger profit margin.

Research from ChatGPT

CariadAgain Thu 30-Oct-25 18:42:41

I remember reading - more than once - that Big Pharma gives "incentives" to doctors to prescribe what they want them to - eg "conferences" in expensive nice holiday places. I expect they still do that and the government wouldnt exactly be in much of a position to legislate against that - considering how many of them have got their own "snouts in the trough" - eg Keir Starmer and his expensive clothes he got given for a present.

LtEve Thu 30-Oct-25 20:05:35

CariadAgain. A heart attack will not necessarily kill you. Plenty of people survive them although can potentially be left with disabling effects such as heart failure.

fancythat Thu 30-Oct-25 20:12:21

Reduce salt I always say.

Not sure it works for everyone to do that.

CariadAgain Thu 30-Oct-25 20:58:02

LtEve

CariadAgain. A heart attack will not necessarily kill you. Plenty of people survive them although can potentially be left with disabling effects such as heart failure.

I "theenk" there's some 10 minute time span that they talk about in which "action" can be taken isnt there?

As I live on my own - then I'm not unduly worried anyone would get to me that fast....so I presume it would be more of a case of "Ouch"....and 10 minutes later "Oh well...."....

It's not actually something I asked for any details of - despite my father having numerous ones, my mother had one, my erstwhile brother certainly had several. But I guess they were all "caught in time" so to say....

In my family there really wasn't much "health talk" all round - as all three of the others were so unhealthy for so long (must have been over 50 years in my fathers case!!!!!)....so ill health was basically "part of the scenery" for all of them except me. All 3 of them had medical appointments like other people had a social life basically...there was always something....

It really didn't get talked about except in passing basically - which, to me, was a very odd way of going about things...but that's what they did. My father even died during his heart bypass operation and it took months before anyone told me - and my mother finally said "He died....he was up there at the ceiling of the operating theatre watching what they did to his body. They brought him back again" and she only knew because he'd told a friend of his and friend told her and she told me....and it was months after that before I knew he'd had one of those NDE's (Near Death Experiences) that I'd read about. I'm guessing that's a very odd way for a family to function - but that's how it was. But I know myself that when visiting my father after that operation I could see instantly that he was no longer extremely intelligent - I looked at his eyes and thought "He's average intelligence now. Oh dear" and it was all those hours under general anaesthetic that did that...and I thought it was wisest not to say he himself was different to what I'd been used to....as I knew just how proud he was of that intelligence level. So I said nowt...

Hence I know very little indeed actually about that really - as severe ill health was just such a "constant stream"....

LtEve Thu 30-Oct-25 21:18:06

Nope that is not true. A heart attack is a myocardial infarction, a blockage in one of the arteries in the heart. It depends which one it is as to the amount of heart muscle killed. Many people have heart attacks and don’t realise it. They only find out when they have an ECG which can show damage to the heart muscle. Untreated heart attacks can result in various levels of heart failure which can be very debilitating.

CariadAgain Fri 31-Oct-25 07:35:15

Guess I've got yet another questioning session coming up with Chat GPT - and see what it's got to say about untreated heart attacks then in case I have one - or maybe even have had one (though I guess I'd know if I had) and see what "heart failure" looks like so to say.

Now trying to think whether I've ever had an ECG - which I guess means I haven't - though they've done some checking me over..

LtEve Fri 31-Oct-25 08:42:12

ECG are sticky dots which go across the middle of your chest and underneath your left breast if that helps Many people do not realise they’ve had a mild heart attack. It is not always the classic clutching your chest shown in films, especially in women.

CariadAgain Fri 31-Oct-25 16:14:47

Thanks!

In that case - I've not had that one amongst the tests they've done on me.

It does confuse issues when there's several health issues to get rid of at once and one's trying to find out about all of them, work out what the order of priority is to deal with them. It does get confusing sometimes...

Tries to think positive - I think my weight is starting to come back down again (which can only be good for everything). The vanity size 18 dress I'm currently wearing feels like I should have bought a vanity size 16 one instead (so one size down and two sizes to go if so).

jobieP Fri 07-Nov-25 20:52:21

skydancer Me too! Lost 7lb and drink more water.
My BP meds were 140mg I am now on 40mg!