Mountjaro, my friend looks amazing!

My dietician said 35+ even though my gp said 40+ but I put him right on that, so he did refer me in the end.

Just to clarify. It has been a phased introduction by the NHS. The first phase did require 4 out of 5 of the described medical conditions but after phase 1, that requirement does not apply.

I have Been prescribed them primrose- bmi 36.9 high blood pressure but controlled & fatty liver.
Was pre-Diabetic but reversed that by loosing 8lb on xenical.
I know of people who are way more than that but are funding the drugs themselves.
I went through the NHS.

foxie48, it sounds as if your friend is one who has used the jabs to help her make the necessary life-style changes to let her keep her new weight steady. Not everyone works as hard at it as she obviously has, which may account for the weight going back on for some people.

Well done, your friend, and good luck to her for the future. It's always good to hear a success story!

I think this is a wonder drug
for those people who can tolerate it but it does need to be monitored very carefully by a clinician to ensure it isn’t over used. I have just seen a photo of Sharon and Kelly Osbourne in the paper - need I say more!

It is 4 other issues.

MT62

Primrose53

My friend’s son was hugely obese. I reckon he must have easily been about 25-30 stone. He is a big eater and drinker but amazingly does a very physical job.

The NHS would not give him fat jabs because even at that massive weight you have to have 4 other issues and he didn’t so he didn’t qualify. So he is funding them himself and has lost 7 stones in just a few months. Costs him nearly £200 a month but he feels so much better.

4? That’s not true! BMI 35+ at at least two health issues

It is correct.

www.jamesstreetsurgery.com/nhs-criteria-for-weight-loss-injections/

foxie48

Just a quick update on my friend. She's been off the jabs now for 2 months, her weight is stable and she's had absolutely no health issues. I saw her recently and she looked radiant and says she feels happier and healthier than she has in years. She's just had her 60th birthday and has been overweight most of her life.

Thankyou for the update Foxie! Good to read she's much better.

Just a quick update on my friend. She's been off the jabs now for 2 months, her weight is stable and she's had absolutely no health issues. I saw her recently and she looked radiant and says she feels happier and healthier than she has in years. She's just had her 60th birthday and has been overweight most of her life.

The long term effects are not yet known, and I read that once started you must be on them for life.

I am overweight, but would not consider taking weight loss drugs.

Ziggy62

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Fancyflowers
What did your GP say when you asked ? Or did I miss your update (apologies if I have)
I'm over 75 with CKD and have just started on Wegovy.

Ziggy62

I knew it wouldn't be long

And this wasn’t (judgemental) ?

My sister was on them.. Now minus her Gall bladder. Also my chums 40 year old neice only last weekend, was an emergency admission, turns our Gall bladder surgery. Both told it was due to the Jabs.

Only yesterday I received (as a Health care professional) from British Heart Foundation a notification on the effects once the
weight jabs are stopped. They issued a statement that any positive effects ie low BP, Cholesterol levels plus high %of weight gain all return.

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Mollygo

DDiL has lost 5 stone since last summer. She looks amazing, but now has gallstone issues. I don’t like to ask if she’s taking anything.

My niece knows of four friends who are on the jabs, all four are having to have their Gall bladders removed.
Maybe their diets are too low in fat. You need some fat to make bile I believe, I could be wrong though.

Primrose53

My friend’s son was hugely obese. I reckon he must have easily been about 25-30 stone. He is a big eater and drinker but amazingly does a very physical job.

The NHS would not give him fat jabs because even at that massive weight you have to have 4 other issues and he didn’t so he didn’t qualify. So he is funding them himself and has lost 7 stones in just a few months. Costs him nearly £200 a month but he feels so much better.

4? That’s not true! BMI 35+ at at least two health issues

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J52

I’d be wary if I already had renal issues. There are some studies that show weight loss drugs could cause harm to kidneys. I’d consult a GP before embarking on the injections.

Thank you. I have a doctor's appointment later today so I will ask.

Or is somebody just being snide?

What wouldn’t?

I knew it wouldn't be long

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Frankly I was jealous but at 77 I am too old to be considered for any of the fat jabs as they seemed like a wonder drug.
But there’s no such thing as a true wonder drug is there?
Rapid weight loss, particularly in older adults, can cause a loss of lean muscle mass, potentially increasing risks of frailty, falls, and appearing to "age the body by a decade". And I don’t have a decade to spare!
It also appears that people regain the weight lost even faster after stopping and the health risks to the kidneys and increased risk of pancreatitis , so I suppose the risks are not worth it as one gets older.
Researching further I found the following;
Rapid Regain Rate: Research indicates that after stopping medication, people can regain an average of 0.8 kg (1.8 lbs) per month
Faster Than Dieting: The rate of weight regain after stopping injections is faster than after stopping traditional, behavioral, or lifestyle-based weight loss programs.
Timeline to Return: On average, people return to their original, pre-treatment weight within 1.5 years (18 months) of stopping the medication
Reversal of Health Benefits: The health improvements gained while on the jabs—such as better blood pressure, cholesterol, and glycemic control—tend to be reversed along with the weight regain, typically within 1.4 years of stopping

So it’s back to calorie counting. ☹️☹️☹️

My friend’s son was hugely obese. I reckon he must have easily been about 25-30 stone. He is a big eater and drinker but amazingly does a very physical job.

The NHS would not give him fat jabs because even at that massive weight you have to have 4 other issues and he didn’t so he didn’t qualify. So he is funding them himself and has lost 7 stones in just a few months. Costs him nearly £200 a month but he feels so much better.