Latest Abortion Act

How is it that when a woman miscarries a wanted pregnancy, she loses 'her baby'
When it's an abortion, it is a foetus, she terminates the pregnancy.
I think there needs to be more honesty around this. A ternination of prsgnancy is a termination (killing) of life, there is no way around that fact. A foetus isnt a mole or a skin tag. Any woman going for a 12 week scan knows that. Better we agree that it is the mother's right to kill that life for her own reasons and nobody's business.

Most terminations are in the very early stages. The later ones are people like scared teenagers who can’t talk to anyone, menopausal women who thought they could not become pregnant anymore, women who are raped and therefore traumatised. Some women still have periods in pregnancy, some don’t know they are pregnant. To call these situations murder is inflammatory and make a difficult time even more traumatic. I strongly support pro choice. I think it would be a good idea to just need one doctors approval, or even a skilled nurse specialist to sign a form. Vera Drake is a good film to watch if we need reminding of the bad old days. Let’s not go back. Women all over the world are having their hard fought rights gradually taken away for all sorts of things. Look at Afghanistan, not typical, but a warning.

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For curiosity I googled '24 week foetus' and it's a fully formed baby, many survive.

Surely an abortion can be arranged well before that if you don't want to go through with the pregnancy.

After missing a period, doing a pregnancy test, having the pregnancy confirmed by a doctor, then deciding on a termination for whatever reason, I would have thought that 12 - 16 weeks max. should be the cut off time. I didn't realise until looking at the photos how quickly a baby develops, I was shocked. It can't be an easy decision to have an abortion, but it should be a matter of urgency as soon as you have your pregnancy confirmed.

You're assuming all women have the usual symptoms of pregnancy; some don't.I know three who had no inkling they were pregnant for the first six months.

www.bpas.org/media/dmjf3y0l/why-do-women-need-abortions-after-20-weeks.pdf

I have always been pro choice . And a woman can decide what to do with her own body. Abortion to my mind isn't murder until the baby is born I have always believed it's a fetus. Even having my own children until they where born that's how I felt. I wouldn't let myself love them in case I miscarried until they where born . This won't be a popular view and those who will haul insults at me save your breath . We all have free will to decide how we feel about everything in life including abortion and being pregnant.

My mom miscarriage at 22 weeks after finally getting pregnant after 3 years of trying until dementia made her forget my mom grieved over the miscarriage and blamed herself .

For curiosity I googled '24 week foetus' and it's a fully formed baby, many survive.

Surely an abortion can be arranged well before that if you don't want to go through with the pregnancy.

After missing a period, doing a pregnancy test, having the pregnancy confirmed by a doctor, then deciding on a termination for whatever reason, I would have thought that 12 - 16 weeks max. should be the cut off time. I didn't realise until looking at the photos how quickly a baby develops, I was shocked. It can't be an easy decision to have an abortion, but it should be a matter of urgency as soon as you have your pregnancy confirmed.

I think it is murder killing a 24 week old fully formed child. That is just my opinion. Not for any religeous reason. Not wanting a child isn't a reason, if it's for severe health reason that's different but I would still have it.

The confusion about possible changes may be because Abortion is devolved in Scotland and The Abortion Act is under review. An Expert Report was submitted last year. The following is quoted from AI, source is the Scotsman I think. It's a good summary, I've read the report.

"If the Scottish Government adopts all the November 2025 expert recommendations, Scotland's laws could become more progressive than England's:

The "Two Doctors" Rule: Scotland is considering removing the requirement for two doctors to approve an abortion before 24 weeks, allowing it to be a matter of "healthcare on request". England currently still requires two doctors' signatures.

Who Provides Care: Proposals in Scotland would allow any "appropriately trained healthcare professional" (not just doctors) to provide abortion care.

Decriminalisation Scope: While England focuses on protecting women from prosecution for self-induced abortions, the Scottish proposals aim to move abortion entirely out of the criminal law framework into a healthcare-led model. "

I think this decriminalisation has just opened up a debate on abortion that in this country was pretty much settled. I disagree with this move completely and have always been pro choice.

I agree.No changes to the guidelines, but decriminalisation of women seeking abortion.

I think the argument of opponents is that decriminalisation would lead to breaches in the very stringent requirements for post -24 weeks abortions.(only legal in very special circumstances where the mother's life is endangered or it is certain that the baby is not going to be capable of surviving longer than hours post-birth even if born at term)

However this wouldn't happen in hospitals, far to risky for them to break abortion law, and at this stage of pregnancy it is very unlikely that "backstreet" abortions would happen, as the drugs would merely induce labour, which would then require medical / midwifery assistance in, probably the majority, of cases and could possibly result in a livebirth.It is too late for a surgical abortion.

I trust that obstericians and midwives were involved before this decriminalisation bill was introduced, and the professional opinion obtained that it would not lead to an increase in post-24 weeks abortions.

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