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Wyllow3 Fri 03-Apr-26 22:25:08

This is a continuation of Black Dogs 28, which you can view the end of on

www.gransnet.com/forums/health/1354797-Black-Dogs-28?pg=40

to continue for those who've posted there before, and to get a flavour of this long term space.

*Welcome to Black Dogs 29*:

It's supporting those of us who wish to be able to share our mental health problems as they affect daily lives:and share aspects of our lives supportively, give and take support. Its been going for some time, so this is a jump in at the deep end

All are welcome: don't be put off by some of us being there long term, people do come and go.

HowVeryDareYou2 Thu 07-May-26 22:02:31

Doodle You hardly eat anything! I don't blame you for not wanting to give up your small pleasurable things of chocolate and wine. Don't worry about your weight - I bet you're not obese like me. I'll get back on my diet quite strictly after my holiday.

nadateturbe Nice to "see" you, and I'm glad you've been able to get out, elbeit for a short time. Hope your energy levels pick up a but soon. Do what you can, when you feel up to it.

Off to bed now. It's been a long day. Hope I won't wake so early tomorrow. Night, all x

Wyllow3 Thu 07-May-26 22:41:59

A very people day, so am totally cream crakcered and expect not a lot tomorrow. but good.

Saw my F/friend for a couple of hours, it’s my first visit, it went well, tho her situation is very, very difficult. Mentally ill, and demanding husband of 90 who wont accept help (she has got out as she couldn’t physically cope), and demanding MH ill DD how frankly is outrageous -threatening suicide if Mum doesnt do, x,y,z - these are possible personality, disorders I suspect, they don’t fit into normal categories.

She can’t stay no enough, but is as she is, tho she knows she needs to. We enjoy each others company

We will attempt outings when she is up to it, she never gets out except when her son comes from the Netherlands. She’s only 78, but very badly affected by RA, can't do technology.

But she said at the end that life was just endurance. Well we can have treats: I can only support any moves to “say no” she makes. Not to mention trying to help her get pension credit.

I did a lot of sauna and swum. Lots of fun chat. The interesting chats with a couple of very outgoing women the sauna on aspects of men encountered in the past. (We had all at some time in our lives been asked by men for sex for money somewhat unexpectedly)

It silenced the usually dominant male chat. 🤣 I wonder why.

And the pool clear enough my backstroke was possible.

And I bumped into someone at the end whom I want to meet up with now and then.

I saw my nice NDN neighbour at a bus stop on my way home, quite some way away, and she was delighted to get the lift..she's heading for the sun and sea in Croatia next week with a friend. (green emoji)

I was so tired I slept 3 hours and still pretty out of it. So many people today, I havent taken it in yet. My mindisnty at peace, but ifs been mealy a moving forward MrA day, those we are currently fixing up the 4 way Zoom meetings on the issue.

I just can believe you have a GD1 of that age, Scaredycat. It is not possible. You aren’t a lot older than me. Roll on the 19th. Yes, it’s lovely to have them local. It never bothered me so much until I couldn’t travel and visit any more or rarely. My thing about coping with travel. Great photo challenges there, quite intriguing.

One of the nice things about Ex was we went all over the place as he was confident…

…. One of the tricky things was that because of that, I didn’t try to do it alone and got dependent, tho energy permitting I will drive to Ds and I will once I get the resources go to my fave holiday hotel on the N Yorks coast.

I agree HVDY Hmm. Wise decision not to in from Mr Across The Road about the Squirrels! That was an early get up.

I hope this isn’t the new normal either Sweetpeasue. What a simply lovely chance encounter with that young man. Isn’t that good for the future 🙂. Sorry for the broken night, and I’m glad you got back to sleep. I see what you mean about a little book group being more comfy, and agree. Oh, what a lovely crystal bird, I hope it will make patterns from the sun.

You know, you really don’t eat a lot, Doodle. Do you walk much, or only now and then?

I only say this as exercise improves your metabolism, ie makes it work better burning the calories you do have. As we age our metabolism slows significantly (and it varies between people). But that wine really isnt that great, neither is lot of calories neither is just 2 squares of dark choc.

I didnt know all that about the heart things you said, just vague recall.

Given the temptations at the garden centre it may be just as well you dont have a garden!

It is so nice to see you in, nadateturbe. I’m glad to hear of a slightly better day…next time go and have a coffee out instead of the housework! Xxxx hugs.

Wyllow3 Thu 07-May-26 22:43:39

Just cant believe, not just can believe you have a DGD that age *Scaredycat.

Purplepixie Fri 08-May-26 11:33:58

I had a lovely time with my friend yesterday but she’s been unwell and didn’t look too good. She’s now 78. I feel sad today but my youngest son will be here tonight. Brief visit until tomorrow lunchtime. I’ve stuff prepared for our dinner tonight. Baking then housework right now. DH being ok.

Wyllow3 Fri 08-May-26 15:34:00

Good to hear.

Today is a wipeout. Bad dreams, exhausted waking, cleaner came and it was hard to talk, underlying just wanted to take extra diazepam and get out of to, fought it and went to a 30 mins Quaker Zoom, someone asked after me, and I just said my fatigue was so bad I daren't book a holiday in June.

And it's a thank you to MrA for all that I could have done had he not assaulted me and had I had enough support.... Family, hobbies, friendship, going to the gym -

Today is a sweet day, the sort I would have driven up to my favourite short high up walk in the local countryside so loved.
As simple as that. I'm rarely bitter - today I am.

Sweetpeasue Fri 08-May-26 16:09:24

Nadateturbe So nice to see you in. Don't worry about replying to all , we know it takes energy. Thankyou for your love and prayers.
HVDY I do hope those squirrels are the survivors. I can easily get bunged up with my painkillers so dont think the shakes /bars would do for me - you must have had such determination and will-power. I'm a lost cause- just had a chocolate bar! 😩 Hope you slept better.
* Purplepixie Glad you had a nice day yesterday. Enjoy your son's visit ,theyre special aren't they.
Doodle Doesn't matter if you dont buy plants from garden centre if you enjoy seeing your friends. There must be so very many things to remind you of your DH. I know hes constantly with you anyway.
Wyllow Im with you today ,having bitterness and bad dreams. So sorry you have felt so bad. The fatigue may not only be due to Mr A but of course that should never have happened and has caused you so much anger too. Hopefully the Quaker that asked after uou may inform others of how bad you feel and will be further proof of the affect its had on you.

Have sharp pains all over body today and extreme tiredness ( thankyou Fibro)
so feeling a bit sorry for myself. It makes me not want to move as it hurts so. Not done much. DH not too bad.
Hope everyone is ok. Sorry cant write more
X

Scaredycat Fri 08-May-26 16:16:09

Hi all
SweetPeaSue- I just spent some time on the iPad going through the conclusions on the report so I can speak to the Doc with a bit of knowledge. I would rather have a face to face but will ask him for one. I,ve never met him . He has no idea of my fitness level ,size, mental state now. I won’t hold my breath though!!
A crystal bird sounds beautiful- lovely in the sunshine. Garden centres are so full of lovely things aren’t they.
Glad DH is feeling a bit better today- each day hopefully he can do a bit more,if the meds are helping him.
HVDY- yes we have some good subjects. I like to take ‘off the wall’ subjects and try to find a different angle.
Hope the squirrels keep a low profile. How are Jaffas teeth now?
Glad you’re going to go for it on holiday- you deserve all the treats you can lay your hands on. Have a nice Beach walk everyday - or along the promenade that are so lovely in many European resorts.
PurplePixie-Glad you enjoyed your day with your friend. I,m sorry she isn’t well - we love our friends don’t we they are precious. Two of my oldest friends now have Alzheimer’s and it’s so sad not being able to chat and laugh like we used to.
Enjoy the time with your Son. Mine lives abroad so I only see him once a year. He,ll raise your spirits I,m sure.
Wyllow- your friend has a lot to deal with- she’s lucky to have you to support and visit with. It,ll be good when you can get out together.
A good social time at the Gym- you can’t beat a good old girlie chat.
My GD1 looks so much younger than she is too. Up until a few years ago she was still getting ID d buying drink in a Supermarket!!
Ah that’s not like you to feel bitter. It took a lot of effort to rally round and do the Zoom.
You can still have all the things you love- family,Hobbies,Friendship and Gym. Mentally tell MrA to do one. If it’s nice tomorrow go to your hills - you have a life to live.

Sending love to all

Scaredycat Fri 08-May-26 16:20:47

If only we could all relax like Kai

HowVeryDareYou2 Fri 08-May-26 18:22:01

Wyllow3 You had such a good day yesterday - chatting with your friend who has got so much to deal with (ill husband and difficult daughter), swimming, sauna, chats, seeing a neighbour - all very positive. Today, you're low. You can still go to the gym, Costa, bike ride, your son's, etc. You can't let all the MrA stuff stop all those things. You're a strong, capable woman with a life to enjoy.

PurplePixie Hope your dinner is good. Enjoy your son's visit.

SweetpeaSue I had a Cadbury's Twirl earlier, after aqua aerobics. Jaffa woke me at 2.30!!! wanting to go out - I told him off and left him downstairs. Got up at 6.30. Hope your aches and pains ease off soon. Fibromyalgia is horrible. My Son1 has it.

ScaredyCat Jaffa is fine now, thanks. He still managed to eat a lot. The FIV means he'll be prone to Gingivitis a lot, but we'll deal with it when he's bad. Your Kai looks so gorgeous - all fluffy and cuddly, really at home on the chair.

Did aqua, a bit of shopping, and bought some new sandals. DH has weeded, mowed the lawn, taken the garden stuff to the tip, and vacuumed the car. Love to all x

Doodle Fri 08-May-26 19:00:04

Evening all. I’m very sleepy. Didn’t sleep well last night. Up early for walking group then hospice for lunch.
Wyllow sorry about your bad dreams and bad day. Mr A has a lot to answer for. No I don’t exercise enough. No stairs and not much walking. I have started doing some stairs but my knees are so painful. I’m hoping the more I do the easier it will be.
HVdY hope aqua went well. I’ve just bought new sandals too. Blue ones. They are more for show when I wear a dress.m they are certainly not for walking in. Just dainty ones. For walking I have more sturdy shoes. What are yours like?
Sweetpeasue so sorry about the fibro. Not much fun when you hurt so much. Ooh I’d love a chocolate bar. I’m Trying to be good at the moment but I do love chocolate.
Scaredycat wouldn’t it be lovely to just flop down like Kai and go to sleep. I was awake for hours last night in the end got up and read my book.
Lovely to have so much family close by but I know you really miss your son who lives abroad.
nadateturbe you can only do what you feel capable of. Just getting through the day can take real effort. Hope you’re ok. You too Pirplepixie.

Wyllow3 Fri 08-May-26 19:21:01

I want to be Kai.
Love to all...x

Sweetpeasue Fri 08-May-26 20:11:49

Wyllow3

I want to be Kai.
Love to all...x

Me too please but Ive given a good imitation today!

Wyllow3 Fri 08-May-26 23:18:04

I got on the home cycle whilst the lovely programme on David Attenborough went on for 45 mins.
No one more surprised than myself.My knees are happier and a sense of achievement. thought of Doodle and knees.

When I was chopping the salad standing up I remembered my home made knee exercises in the kitchen

google: "knee exercises in kitchen"

What to do while the kettle is boiling with the support of the counter...

(no, I haven't had anything to drink)

Wyllow3 Fri 08-May-26 23:18:24

Yet.

EllieAnne Fri 08-May-26 23:23:11

I have 🥃

Wyllow3 Fri 08-May-26 23:25:12

😊

Oh well, I'll join you then.

Purplepixie Fri 08-May-26 23:28:41

Me too! Cheers! 🥂

Wyllow3 Fri 08-May-26 23:34:15

There must be a word for it - a drinking clutch of BD's?
B....
D....

HowVeryDareYou2 Sat 09-May-26 07:43:36

Doodle I bought a pair of beige Sketchers sandals. I like comfort these days, and love Sketchers shoes. I have already got flipflops, though, and a pair of dressy sandals.

Wyllow3 Boozy Dames?

It's a bright, warm morning. Meeting Son1 and his girls for lunch later, then will vacuum upstairs and clean the bathroom. Hope ALL BDers manage to have a decent day x

EllieAnne Sat 09-May-26 08:47:54

I’m going to an event with my choir this afternoon. Several choirs taking part and we all get a ten minute slot. It’s in Glasgow but we’re going on a coach so don’t need to worry about driving.
S2 wanted to come today but will now come tomorrow.
When I told dh I had something on with the choir I got no response at all.it just makes you feel worthless. He has no interest in where I go or anything I do.
If I disappeared I wonder how long it would take him to notice.

EllieAnne Sat 09-May-26 08:48:56

Mean twenty minutes!
One of our songs is dancing queen.

Wyllow3 Sat 09-May-26 10:51:18

Boozy dames? Like it. I had a bit too. much, as my meds don't agree with more than a wee bit.Alcohol is a depressant etc etc.

But it was nice having an accidental late night meet.

I'd love to be in a choir, Ellie Anne. Even more now when I hear some of the kind of stuff you sing. Finding one is on my listbox "to-do's when more energy". I have a good enough voice with a musical background, I used to be able to sight read music - but that was a very long time ago.

Oh, I suspect DH would notice all right when the production of regular meals and house care dried up. He's using the silent treatment, stonewalling, or more specifically in this context, gaslighting by silence. It undermines self worth. And I know as that was part of EWx's armoury, although he tended to go more for the shouting how weird I was, that I was being this or that or the other which undermined my sense of self hood, who I was really. Not seeing anybody together, nearly ever, in so many years.

And it takes a long time to consequently find that self worth and recover. Sadly, it's in your hands, Ellie Anne - go out and do as much as you cant o find that self worth, and at home withdraw Service as Normal. Not easy.

Gosh, you dont live that far away from me, HVDY and it's chilly and overcast here. Have a lovely family lunch.

that talk of gaslighting makes me realise how profound it has been from some Quakers. who didnt really "know me at all" - but didnt try to find out either.

The Wyllow who can listen carefully and has always supported especially those with MH problems.

The one, before I was ill, and in the last place I lived, walked with a fellow woman Quaker through to her dying and gave the funeral oration: the one who was close friends with a gay and artistic Quaker couple here who happen to have subsequently moved away: who has been an inpatient and was confided in by the most unlikely people, a Muslim man who told me he thought the staff wanted to kill him, the mums and dads who take to me as they were afraid of the nurses, and I was able to give them the right words to say what they needed, the one who stood up to a manipulative women who was attacking others....

How, up against a man with a Fine Reputation, I was not really believed: but no one really, except for Quaker F, now in hospital, bothered to actually try and get to really know me.

Scaredycat Sat 09-May-26 16:05:18

Hi all
Doodle I once read the term “ Bungalow Legs” for people who live in single storey homes and therefore don’t use stairs often. It said you lose strength in your legs without the exercise of stair climbing.What about that Revitive thing that is advertised on Tele- it might help.
I hope you enjoyed your walk this morning- it’s easier to walk further when you have people to chat to. Also that you had a good lunch afterwards.
Kai has mastered the art of relaxation to the extreme!!
HVDY- glad Jaffa is comfortable again- don’t think much could stop him enjoying his food - bless his heart. Such a shame for him to,have FIV - he manages well doesn’t he. How old do you think he is?
Kai is the most laid back cat ever- Yuki is more lively and loves to play- when I can work up the energy!!
I love Skechers- the Slip ONS have made it so easy instead of having to sit on the stairs to put on your shoes. I know- I,m lazy but it’s brilliant.
Hope you have a lovely lunch today- the weather here is beautiful.
EllieAnne- it must be a great feeling being part of a choir. There’s something about people singing together that really touches your heart.
Your DH obviously has no idea how much his disinterest hurts. Please don’t feel worthless- there are many people who know and love you . He has no idea how lucky he is to have you. Try not to let his unfeeling attitude chip away at you. Do more for yourself and let him stew.
PurplePixie- belated Cheers!! I loved reading you all raising a glass together. How I miss having a drink- truly one of life’s pleasures.
Wyllow- have you heard of Rock Choir? One of my Art Friends belongs to one. There are over 400+ around the country so there’s bound to be at least one near you. She absolutely loves it and it doesn’t really matter how good your voice is.
Glad to see you enjoying an evening tipple with the Boozy Dames!! It cheered me up to think of you all together in Spirit.
You need to read that list of all you,ve done and realise you have so much worth and such a lot to give. Don’t let Mr A and his false persona and giant ego stop you living your life.
SweetPeaSue- hope you’re feeling better today and have been out with DH.

Love to all present and well remembered.

HowVeryDareYou2 Sat 09-May-26 18:01:40

EllieAnne Being in a choir, all singing some Abba songs, sounds like good fun. Hope it all went well. Your husband is indifferent, isn't he, which is worse than being nasty. Try not to take it to heart. He'd miss you if you weren't there. Would/could you ever leave?

Wyllow3 You helped a lot of people with MH problems. My point about you being a strong woman shows exactly that. Sadly, when a person is strong, others expect them to be able to cope/put up with anything thrown at them. The Quakers who didn't believe you about MrA must surely be realising now that he isn't the person they thought he was.

ScaredyCat Jaffa's such a nice-natured cat, small for a male, and with the quietest little voice. No idea how old he is, but probably 8 or more. Your boys are young, aren't they? Does Kai like fishing rod-type toys? Jaffa runs away at the sight of one (I think someone probably hit him with something). It's been gorgeous weather here all day - I wore a dress and got my (pale) bare legs out! Rock Choirs sound like something I might like to give a go. I'm going to Google it.

DH and I met Son1 and his girls for a pub lunch, games of cards, and a catch-up. He had been painting the walls in their bedroom and was going to put some flatpack furniture together. Hope everyone has had a good day x

Doodle Sat 09-May-26 20:21:04

Ellie Anne I love dancing Queen. Hope you enjoyed the trip and the singing. Your Dh is unbelievable.
Glad you had a nice lunch with your son HVdY . Jaffa sounds so sweet. Does he sit on your windowsill watching things outside?
Sweetpeasue that’s me. Bungalow legs. I’ve started doing three flights a day up and down. It’s really painful but if I keep going I might get somewhere. Also going to try MSM and turmeric. Hope you’ve had a good day.
Wyllow you have encouraged me to try kitchen exercises. I’m doing tiny little squats at the worktop. They have to be tiny because my knees don’t bend that much,
Sweetpeasue hope today has been better and that your Dh has been pain free. Have you been out at all.?
I went to M and S to pick up my pale blue puffa jacket for summer. Boots for more make up (cement) and Waitrose for my weekly shop. Home then for coffee with friend this afternoon