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Wyllow3 Fri 03-Apr-26 22:25:08

This is a continuation of Black Dogs 28, which you can view the end of on

www.gransnet.com/forums/health/1354797-Black-Dogs-28?pg=40

to continue for those who've posted there before, and to get a flavour of this long term space.

*Welcome to Black Dogs 29*:

It's supporting those of us who wish to be able to share our mental health problems as they affect daily lives:and share aspects of our lives supportively, give and take support. Its been going for some time, so this is a jump in at the deep end

All are welcome: don't be put off by some of us being there long term, people do come and go.

Wyllow3 Sat 09-May-26 21:50:40

Yes Scardeycat I have heard of rock choirs and know where there is sort of one - they do disco singing and dancing too -evening, too energetic at present, I shall start a better search when I have a bit more energy.

Sketcher slip ins are smart and great shoes. I’d be quite happy to live in them and have one pair. They have a great range of colours - go for it!

But please do let us know as soon as you feel comfy with it the results of your hospital visit and tests xx really want to know.
Did you go out on your lovely day? Which day is your photography group, is it every week, or every month? Do share a photo or two when it meets the brief is well.

(I prefer the lace ups they just suit my particular feet betters and I can fit the insert in one foot. I’m really lucky, an appointment just came through today after nearly 6 months for the orthotics department for new inserts 🙂.

Spot on about appearing to be strong, HVDY. My guess is we all do it to one extent or another, and need to to hold things together..
But it can work against you at times. I can imagine you enjoying a rock choir and belting it out once you feel comfy.

Well done you Doodle on those three stories - that would be up to the floor of your flat?
Yes the kitchen surface little dips -* it actually doesn’t matter if they are small* as the key thing is just keeping them mobile and working. And can be done in wee bits.
You made me smile with the cement.
And… I found your puffs jacket in M and S online, it’s so very pretty! I have read other thread and glad there is another space there where you can tell it as it is.

I was pleased today as I made it to the gym but still felt rather alone until my occasional Eritrean cleaner friend came and sought me out asking to learn some more yoga.
She had only gone and 3 days ago heaved some weights 70 times as she wants to lose some tum, and was surprised she was aching all over. It’s nice to share!

She had damaged the fascia I think - thats the tissue that joins the muscles to the bone but had found some good gentle yoga herself on u tube. But then pushed herself to the max doing that……

(Thats why your little knee movements are actually spot on Doodle. 🙂)

Then I just pulled in at a charity shop on the way home - not one I know - and found a pretty blue Seasalt new dress, two layers of cotton lawn, not that was nice.

If we get some sun, she said gloomily.

I'll be in later to see if there are any Boozy Dames. Or non boozy ones.

Wyllow3 Sat 09-May-26 22:40:19

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EllieAnne Sat 09-May-26 22:50:31

I’m joining you Wyllow and looking for something to watch on I pad.
Today went well. Lots of audience participation in dancing queen. If I didn’t have this choir I might look for a rock choir but I like that we have a mix of gospel music and other things.

Wyllow3 Sat 09-May-26 23:33:20

I'd like the gospel bit too. Good day out there.

I'm watching one of those 999 programmes. They often have interesting and often sad MH things.

I didn't wake from snooze till 7 so will be up a bit and get tucked into Montalbano later, am a big fan, but thats Prime.

what can you get on the I pad?

HowVeryDareYou2 Sun 10-May-26 06:22:19

Doodle Jaffa doesn't often sit on the windowsill, and doesn't appear to be interested in the birds - all he really enjoys is eating! Your jacket sounds nice. I bought some make-up, too (Polyfilla).

Wyllow3 I like Sketchers a lot. I've got 3 pairs - black, pink marl and beige, and now these sandals, too. Aren't they the most comfortable shoes! You got some good buys at the charity shop. It's overcast here this morning.

Up at 6, although Jaffa woke me at 2.30 again! I'll miss him next week, though. Hope everyone has a decent day x

EllieAnne Sun 10-May-26 07:58:37

Wyllow you can get all the basic channels on I pad and ualibi which has a detective series I quite like. But I have started watching the first series of a touch of frost on itv x. It’s a bit dated but still good. I like all the medical programs too. And you can get a lot of old programs on you tube.

HowVeryDareYou2 Sun 10-May-26 17:51:56

It brightened up here later this morning and was quite pleasant out. DH and I went to a Thai restaurant for lunch, for our wedding anniversary. Looked in a few shops, had a couple of drinks, then an hour's doze when we got home. Cases packed, everything sorted for tomorrow. How's everyone's day been? x

Sweetpeasue Sun 10-May-26 18:08:20

Doodle I get mine from Boots its actually a no 7 cement. I think you're bound to notice improvement in your knees by those exercises though do be careful. I overdid some knee physio and ended up on a stick but the physio told me to keep going!
Wyllow What a lucky find in the charity shop- there are some bargains in some of them. I think a choir would be a great idea for you, especially as you love singing . Hope youve had a nice day today and managed Quakers without any glitches- crossed fingers.
HVDY Happy Wedding Anniversary to you both. Been a nice sunny day here too. What a good day youve had. You must be so excited . I always go over in my mind about what I might have forgotten- once you're away you can relax. Bon Voyage! ✈️🌅😊

Sweetpeasue Sun 10-May-26 18:12:16

EllieAnne Hope youve had a decent day today and seen friends at church.
I like medical programmes too - its encouraging and shows people can be helped. Your choir sounds such a good one . Im sure Dancing Queen was sure to have got the audience motivated.

Sweetpeasue Sun 10-May-26 18:17:11

Scaredycat You made me smile when you said you liked to think of all in one 'spirit'. Sketchers are great aren't they- I should treat myself to another pair. I have some white ones but could do with another colour. Hope youve been OK today.
Purplepixie How have you been? Ive been in the garden doing some weeding but can only manage short bursts because of knees.

Doodle Sun 10-May-26 18:47:55

Ellie Anne do you watch the Chelsea Detective on U?
Glad your singing went well. Good you have something you enjoy.
Sweetpeasue I use number 7 cement too. Or should that be pollyfilla not sure 🤣 interesting about the sketchers. I’ve often looked at them. I might try a pair.
HVDY happy anniversary to you and your Dh. Glad you had a nice lunch. Enjoy your trip.
Wyllow I can watch a lot of channels on the iPad if you download apps or pay subscriptions. I have Prime. Netflix, BBC, ITV, 5 and 4 , U. Quite a lot to choose from.
Scaredycat hope you get to discuss your results properly. Have you had a good weekend?

EllieAnne Sun 10-May-26 20:29:03

Yes doodle I’ve watched all the Chelsea detective. Wish they would make more.
Ds2 and family were here today. Little gs was much better today. He spoke more and played in the garden. He can be bossy but I think some of that is because he’s an only child and mum and dad tend to go along with him.

Wyllow3 Sun 10-May-26 22:54:30

HVDY. - safe travel now! I hope where you stay is lovely and do send postcards if you have wifi and the time.

That's good to hear about little GS, EllieAnne. Its a mistake to go along with any child on everything,

But my DS is also an only child and did cause some trouble at school because he was used to sorry of getting a response quickly, not competing, and I did too much for him as in laying school clothes out getting sports stuff ready, when my DGC have had to fend for themselves from the clean washing basket from 4.
"where are my dinosaur socks"
"didnt you put them in the wash?
"no"
"well, you'll have to wear something else"

However we were both very clear when we were having "grown up time" "time for ourselves, go away, go to the other parent"

There is quite a lot of good "old stuff" on, it depends what you like and I forgot about U tube which of course has loads of stuff and music too for you.

I don't wear cement but do buy some nice creams and cleansers instead. I just never, ever have, worn make up apart from teenage tryouts.
And moved in "alternative" circles where no one really wore make up anyway. I didn't "settle" till I was 30.

Well done on that gardening Sweetpeasue. Yes gardening on your knees is demanding no doubt about it, I get round it by still being able to bend over to weed or plant but not for too long - and have help.

If you try Sketchers trainers Doodle try both lace ups and slip ons before you decide.

Some feet slip around a bit in "slip ons", others find them perfect. But they have good toes room for and a bendy sole and impact protection (think, extra bounce, or indeed, any bounce).

Quaker meeting was OK in some ways but it was as if there were a shadow in the room where the assault had been that I didn't feel before MrA came back. I've had some serious MH symptoms like wanting to drive into walls or feeling frightened around knives over the last few days. Psychiatrist on Tuesday to take it all to. Assessment and advice.

It's a matter of having insight but that insight not being enough to overcome trauma and over to her for guidance if possible. Her reports are very open and honest.

Point is - I trust her. I have met many different MH people and know the differences.

Wyllow3 Sun 10-May-26 22:56:12

Her report might be useful, not just to me, but to show to others. We'll see.

HowVeryDareYou2 Mon 11-May-26 06:09:21

SweetpeaSue Thanks. I have lists for everything. I always pack far more clothes than I need, too. Weeding is so hard on the knees. Have you tried using long-handled tools?
Doodle Thank you. Hope you have a good week.
Wyllow3 Thanks. We're staying at Bitzaro Grande Hotel. It looks decent, and the front faces a large open field. I used to get school things ready for my sons, too, and did their ironing until they left home (they were 25 and 28), as well as washing and ironing when they came back (Son1 for 3 years). What you said about wanting to harm yourself is very troubling. Tell your Psychiatrist fully.

Jaffa was very demanding of strokes and cuddles all night, and I've been awake since 4.45. I'll be exhausted later. Flight isn't until 2.20, so perhaps I'll doze on the plane. Love to all x

Purplepixie Mon 11-May-26 06:28:06

I had a lovely visit on Friday night till Saturday morning with my youngest son. Short but sweet visit. He’s a joy to be around. DH is not his dad and thankfully they do get on, now.
I did a lot in the garden over the rest of the weekend. DH was ok.
A trip to the shops then sewing together my knitted sweater is on the cards for today.

Scaredycat Mon 11-May-26 11:43:31

Hi all
HVDY- have a brilliant holiday and enjoy every minute.
Rock Choir sounds just the job for you- my friend loves it . It is a brand and has over 400 named Rock Choir. Hers sings all sorts but no dancing - I don’t think they do dancing.
My boys love those bouncy fishing rod toys where the worm on the end wangs about like crazy. I don’t play with it much as I,m scared they will hurt themselves they jump so high!!
Happy holidays
Doodle - your puffa jacket sounds lovely- what a gorgeous colour for the Sunmer.
If you get some Skechers you,ll never look back. They really are the most comfortable shoes ever. Lots of nice colours too.
If you have an outlet centre near you they are much cheaper.
Wyllow- don’t think Rock Choir does dancing too. Just Google Rock Choir.
I have the report from my echo but until I speak with the Doc on the 19th I won’t really know the score.
I,m worried about your self harm comments- please be open when you talk to your psychiatrist . The Mr A worry has gone on long enough. He has done damage to you but you re strong. Dont let a disgusting man ruin the wonderful gains you have made over the last 12 months.
EllieAnne- so glad the choir went well. There must be a great feeling of camaraderie between you all.
Do,you like Ben Fogle ? He does a lovely programme called New lives,in the Wild about people who,have chosen to live off grid in places all over the world. It’s really interesting .
SweetPeaSue-when the weather is nice it’s so tempting to do a bit of gardening isn’t it. Getting down is fine but Oh the getting up again is a pit panicky!!
Why are weeds so much healthier than the flowers we plant and see after like babies?
Hope DH is feeling some improvement with the new meds.
PurplePixie- Ah the love for your son comes through your words. So glad you were able to,spend that time with him.
It’s good that he and your DH get along OK and he was more amenable this weekend.
Can’t believe you.ve finished your jumper already!! We need to see a picture.

This afternoon I will visit my friend - she is looking brighter each day. Her rounds of chemo were so punishing - the consultant said many,people cant do it all the way as she did.
Our other friend will be there too so a lot of nattering will be going on.
Take care all Xxxxx

EllieAnne Mon 11-May-26 16:34:10

Enjoy your holiday hydy

Sweetpeasue Mon 11-May-26 18:11:05

HVDY Hope you have a really nice time.
Wyllow Youve come so far ,please dont let Mr A overthrow all that- hes not worth it. You must feel pretty terrible to have those thoughts and you trust that psychiatrist so much. Hang on there and you need to tell him all.
Hope you're feeling a little better today.
Scaredycat Its lovely to hear how well your friend is doing after all that chemo. Im sure youll all have a good chat this afternoon - must be so good to see her much better. I didnt really do much gardening. Just 15 mins. Weeds are such a nuisance aren't they.

Hope everyone else is OK today.
Today has been lost for me. It just hurts too much to move and I gave in this afternoon and went to bed.
Take care all.

Sweetpeasue Mon 11-May-26 18:14:49

Purplepixie So glad you had a nice time with your son. My DH isnt sons dad either and not always easy when they were young. Everyone gets on well and there is much love. Hope you're happy with the sweater - the yarn looked such a nice colour.

Doodle Mon 11-May-26 19:59:09

Ellie Anne I do think that boys tend to me more bossy than girls when young, glad you got to see him and have a play.
I liked the gentleness of the Chelsea Detective too. Along the same lines of Morse which I loved.
Wyllow good you get on with your psychiatrist. Having someone you can talk things over with helps a lot. Hope the report helps you. Thanks for the sketchers tip.
HvDY have a lovely trip. How exciting. Time to show off the slim new you and to relax.
Purplepixie so good your Dh gets in with your son. How lovely to have a visit.
Scaredycat so glad your friend managed all her chemo and she is looking better. That must lift your spirits.
I’ve been to a funeral today of one of our elderly parishioners. Such an interesting life and lovely photo film strip. You forget when you only know people in old age that once they were sprightly youngsters too.
Two years ago we were confronted by the news that DH was not going to get better and I was fighting to get him into the hospice. Thinking about those times I wonder how I managed to get through those days. It’s amazing what we can do when we have to. I remember sleeping in a hospital chair and being freezing cold all night and so very very frightened and sad.

Sweetpeasue Mon 11-May-26 20:57:59

Doodle You were amazing to be able to do the things you did for your DH. All with needing the pacemaker and being poorly yourself. It all must have had major impact on your own health. It was such a blessing yo get him into the hospice to have the best possible care at the end of life. You will never forget those very frightening times ,as in that chair in the cold. So many memories you are re- living. Sending you love .
I found the reel of photos of life of DILs mum so important andshowed the whole person , being young and going through their lives.

Wyllow3 Mon 11-May-26 22:37:16

Safe travel, great holidays, HVDY. Jaffa clearly guessed something was going on. Maybe you slept on the plane? I hope the hotel is everything you wanted.

I remember you reporting those days in Black Dogs too, Doodle.
You were amazing. You were strong for him when it was most needed and love gave you the drive to cope. At these times, it "comes out afterwards".

Sometimes weeks: sometimes years. It doesn't mean the intensity will be there forever.

Each time, one looks through the past the lenses are that bit different. For now, they are powerful, but remember... how you made his last days the very very best that was possible. It is indeed fascinating to find out things about another life that we never knew. Long lives have many, many both ordinary and extraordinary stories.

Like you found with DiL's mum, Sweetpeasue. Helps you to know DiL better too.

PurplePixie, you did that jumper amazingly quickly! Yes it is lovely to be with very little ones, they are a delight and bring their bright hope with them when they are loved, as he clearly is.

Will wait with you Scaredycat for the results. thinking of you while you wait and have a chance to discuss whatever it it x

I woke exhausted but impelled to address the clear lack of belief in what I said, ie the assault for so long, in most minds.

And the conviction that had I been known and respected in the way MrA apparently was ......it would have never all happened, ie a well known and respected women been assaulted by a little known male figure after only being around for 3 months. (Actually, some find him pretty creepy, but that has only come out recently).

So I simply told them about me: I've been a Quaker for 40 years, they know only a fraction: and no one bothered to try and find out more, either "All model Quakerly stuff" (except F in hospital and R the nice one who helped it come out recently.

It didn't receive my agitation and bad thoughts: I hadn't expected it to:

I had sent off what I had written with both the briefing for the Zoom with the HQ Safeguarder

and what I wrote this morning,

and my worrying state of mind,

off to my psychologist to hand onto the psychiatrist with briefing (One only gets and hour with her, and she isnt up to date...)

But I got a mail back saying she wasn't in till later this week, so I crashed, had been drinking brandy, sent them off to Psychiatrist directly, and then rung the crisis line as I wanted to drink alcohol and take extra diazepam. Not enough to do damage but to knock out the thoughts.

I did get a call back but had silenced my ring tone and so didnt pick it up as was asleep...just had time to check the email had got through before close of play at the office, then got a call from 111 as they had alerted them. so waiting for tomorrow.

I want my MH people to get marginally involved. I want them to tell Safeguarding that I don't lie or invent: that I am conscientious and not say of course that Safeguarding did wrong, they would not do that, but rather that the consequences of the way it was handled, including of course the gaslighting, has seriously affected me and I cannot be expected to sit in a meeting with my attacker.

I know when I am endanger of another depressive episode, and the symptoms are similar: will see what she says. she is very very good: one of the best I've met out of maybe 20 different psychiatrists in 24 years.

Wyllow3 Mon 11-May-26 22:38:20

Relieve agitation not receive above.

EllieAnne Mon 11-May-26 23:40:30

Doodle funny you mentioned morse as last night I found the very first episode and started to watch it but fell asleep I will get back to it.
Oh Wyllow I wish you could get the help you need. Mr A has done so much damage. I hope this time the quakers realise how serious this is. I hope you manage to get some rest.