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Whats actually is in the over 65s flu vaccine?

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Bea65 Sun 17-Oct-21 12:47:51

Had my first over 65s flu jab yesterday and woken up few times during night with hot sweats and my chest looks sun-tanned this morning. Also a few mad dashes to loo with the 'runs' . Not pleasant I know but just wondered if any other over 65s have experienced these side effects? Would love to know more what actually makes up the over 65s vaccine?

FannyCornforth Sun 17-Oct-21 12:49:32

I thought that it was just ‘stronger’

Blossoming Sun 17-Oct-21 12:51:27

Had mine on Wednesday, no side effects other than sleepiness for a day.

Namsnanny Sun 17-Oct-21 12:59:23

Just a sore lumpy arm this time.
But flu like symptoms for a couple of days last time.
I was told we had 4 flu virus in the inoculation. One was slightly different for over65 because it affected us differently.
That's all I know.

kittylester Sun 17-Oct-21 13:03:07

I don't care what's in it really and can cope with a few side effects on the basis that it works.

Omaoma57 Sun 17-Oct-21 13:05:42

Had mine on Wednesday..was told it contained 4 different flu viruses and an immune booster! I felt fine last year but this year have been very tired and had a thumping headache…now dissipated and feeling fine!

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Oct-21 13:12:16

No side effects at all.

BlueBelle Sun 17-Oct-21 13:13:59

Had mine last week No bad effects at all
slightly sore arm but wouldn’t have even thought about it if I hadn’t known I d had a jab there

Elegran Sun 17-Oct-21 13:26:11

To answer the original question -

"Ingredients

Several different brands of flu vaccine are used in the UK each flu season. For full information on ingredients, ask for the Patient Information Leaflet for the vaccine you are offered or look the brand name up on the electronic Medicines Compendium (eMC) .

Inactivated flu vaccines usually contain very small amounts of egg proteins (ovalbumin), as the virus is often grown on hens’ eggs. People who are allergic to eggs should ask their doctor for advice. With specialist medical advice, they may be able to receive a vaccine with a very low ovalbumin content or the cell-based quadrivalent vaccine as an alternative to those grown on eggs. See more information on egg proteins in vaccines at vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/vaccine-ingredients#egg%20proteins . Public Health England produce an information sheet showing the ovalbumin content of flu vaccines in the current flu season (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/996263/PHE_Influenza_vaccines_and_Ovalbumin_table_2021_to_2022.pdf )

Inactivated flu vaccines used in the UK often contain very small amounts of the following ingredients:

Sodium and potassium salts, used as acidity regulators
Polysorbate, used as an emulsifier (to hold other ingredients together)

Fluad, the vaccine recommended for people aged 65 and over, contains a small amount of an adjuvant called MF59. Adjuvants are substances which help to strengthen and lengthen the immune response to the vaccine. The main ingredient in MF59 is squalene oil, a naturally-occurring oil found in humans, plants and animals.

Flu vaccines may also contain tiny traces of these products used during the manufacturing process:

antibiotics (gentamicin, neomycin, kanamycin or polymyxin), used to stop bacteria growing and contaminating the vaccine
formaldehyde, an organic compound used to inactivate (kill) the viruses
From vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/inactivated-flu-vaccine

Bea65 Sun 17-Oct-21 13:30:18

Elegran thank you for the detailed info..still digesting it😖

Elegran Sun 17-Oct-21 13:35:57

Bea There are also vast amounts of info online about Fluad, the recommended vaccine for over 65s, but I thought you'd have enough with the general stuff for the time being! Just do an internet search for Fluad when you feel strong enough, it'll all appear.

mrswoo Sun 17-Oct-21 15:43:33

I generally don't have a reaction to the flu jab. However, I got mine last week and felt so "fluey" the following day that I spent much of it in bed. It took about 3 days to feel back to normal again although my arm was sore for longer than that.

ElaineI Sun 17-Oct-21 18:46:43

I was the same after mine and don't usually have any reaction to flu jags. DM also felt a bit off but she had flu and covid booster. She blames it on her boasting that she never has a reaction after flu jag grin

Oldwoman70 Sun 17-Oct-21 19:09:14

Had mine yesterday, apart from a sore arm no other side effects.

Jaxjacky Sun 17-Oct-21 19:46:02

No reaction from mine 10 days ago.

seacliff Sun 17-Oct-21 19:51:54

Had my first ever flu jab yesterday. I was going to say absolutely no reaction, slept well, no sore arm Then I realised I've been feeling unusually sleepy and heavy eyed all day. That must explain it.

Grandma70s Sun 17-Oct-21 20:01:10

Slightly achey arm for a couple of days, that’s all.

Deedaa Sun 17-Oct-21 20:11:30

Had mine a couple of weeks ago and had absolutely no reaction to it at all.

Callistemon Sun 17-Oct-21 20:23:04

I posted this on another thread, this is what I found:

From the WHO website:

Egg-based Vaccines

an A/Victoria/2570/2019 (H1N1)pdm09-like virus;
an A/Cambodia/e0826360/2020 (H3N2)-like virus; and
a B/Washington/02/2019 (B/Victoria lineage)-like virus

Cell- or recombinant-based Vaccines

an A/Wisconsin/588/2019 (H1N1)pdm09-like virus;
an A/Cambodia/e0826360/2020 (H3N2)-like virus; and
a B/Washington/02/2019 (B/Victoria lineage)-like virus

nadateturbe Mon 18-Oct-21 04:24:19

My husband was ill in bed for 3 days this time. I'm dreading getting it this Thursday.

Esspee Mon 18-Oct-21 07:15:01

OH and I had the vaccine on Saturday. We are both perfectly well, we always are.

I make a point of never reading the possible side effects of any medication. My mother consistently got side effects to everything until I instructed the pharmacist to give those leaflets to me when I collected her medication. I explained to her when asked that there was no leaflet supplied as there were no side effects. Worked a treat. 😊

LullyDully Mon 18-Oct-21 08:18:36

I am fine too. I had it on Saturday. Very efficient too. Much better than my old doctors.

Witzend Mon 18-Oct-21 08:21:25

I had a sore arm for a day, but that was it.
Was surprised to get even that, since I don’t usually have any reaction.

MayBeMaw Mon 18-Oct-21 08:21:33

Bea65

Had my first over 65s flu jab yesterday and woken up few times during night with hot sweats and my chest looks sun-tanned this morning. Also a few mad dashes to loo with the 'runs' . Not pleasant I know but just wondered if any other over 65s have experienced these side effects? Would love to know more what actually makes up the over 65s vaccine?

Unless one is a scientist/doctor/epidemiologist, who among us would understand the answer to your question OP ?

nanaK54 Mon 18-Oct-21 08:25:13

DH and I had ours on Saturday, no problems at all, not even a sore arm between us