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Overstaying lodger!

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Anniechip Fri 09-Feb-18 22:10:26

Hi everyone,
I don't post very much but always read the very interesting topics, such great advice on many things, which leads me to this topic.
8 or 9 years ago my husband met a young lady through work. She is the same age as our DD- 36. They (DH and female) are both big rugby and football fans so had a lot in common. She started coming round to watch matches, stopping for tea etc chatting about this and that. A nice enough person who I chatted to about cooking,holidays etc general life 'stuff'! Her family live away but she has a very large social circle.
Last March she told us that she was going to have to move out of her rented house that she shared with another female as the owner had sold up. She had a month to find somewhere alternative. We live in a 3 bed terrace, both our children have families and houses of their own.
DH asked me if she could move in with us 'for a few weeks' until she found somewhere.
Reluctantly I agreed but really wanted to say no, I felt under pressure as she was having no luck finding anything.
12 months previous to this our DD, her husband and 15 month old who had been living with us for 18 months, saving for their own place, had moved out and I was just about getting my house back to what I wanted it to be.
So....... The lodger moved in lock stock and barrel.
I had to empty a large wardrobe in my second bedroom, clear 2 kitchen cupboards and fridge and freezer space.
We agreed on a rent of £300 a calendar month.
Now she is becoming far too comfortable and complacent.
Leaves washing in the machine for a couple of days or on my dryer in the back room, coats over dining chairs, shoes in the hallway, dishes in the sink for a couple of hours, etc etc.
Now I feel it's time she was moving on. My dGC like to have sleepovers but have to sleep on an air bed in our room instead of a nice comfy bed in their own little room.
The back room is my 'office' so no room for a bed.
I want my own space back but unfortunately my husband sees no wrong. If anything his life has been enriched as night after night they sit and watch sport and chat endlessly. I end up in the dining room or upstairs in bed!
AIBU to say it's time now? I want my house back!!
DH doesn't think there is a problem and says we need the money- he was made redundant in June after 18 years in the same job, but has since found another so we are both still earning.
I would willingly give up the £300 a month to have my life and house back! Any ideas on how to get rid?!

Madgran77 Sat 17-Mar-18 16:27:53

I know this thread has gone on a long time and it might be irritating for anyone not in the situation, when it seems to be going round in circles with no apparent action by the OP. But I also understand with how easy it is to keep going round in circles when you don't expect someone to behave as they do so one keeps on trying to work out the next step!

Annie Please let us know how things go ...and please stick to your guns.

Luckylegs Sat 17-Mar-18 17:09:13

Ive just found this thread again after a month and simply can't believe it's not resolved yet! We are all spitting blood and vowing this cheeky so and so would be out on her ear in no time but the OP is obviously a lovely non confrontational person which is why it's ended up like this! Please come back and tell us the cuckoo in the next has gone! It's driving me mad!

Luckylegs Sat 17-Mar-18 17:10:14

Nest of course. Auto correct again!

Anniechip Sat 17-Mar-18 18:50:26

Hi all
Thank you again for your posts, new and old. In answer to many, why is she still there? I gave her 7 weeks notice- ample time for her to find something. This Tuesday gone- with three weeks notice left and only 3 rooms/houses/properties viewed I told her that my son and 2 DGC are now staying instead of just my DGD as was the original plan.
I told her she HAS to be out by 31st March, (my exact words were “I WANT YOU OUT”) which only gives me a week to give it a thorough overhaul. Forget the decorating now until after my son has returned home. She saw one yesterday on Spare rooms which she said was lovely but... the owner is putting the house on the market?!?! Why ask for a lodger in that case? Houses round here go very, very quickly.
So.... dear friends.... I will keep you up to date.
Just a note to some Gransnettets who have basically accused me of being a wimp and not standing up for myself and maybe not being able to cope and make decisions in an emergency, I cannot change the person and character I am. I am very tolerant and patient as youwill have seen, but you know the saying The worm who turned? Watch this worm on 31st Matcht!!!!

BBbevan Sat 17-Mar-18 18:57:04

Well done Worm. Keep on turning. Good luck ???

NfkDumpling Sat 17-Mar-18 19:01:35

Go Girl!!

I don’t think you’re a wimp... just a naturally nice person who’s been taken advantage of. And your DH too. But sooner or later one of you had to make a stand. And you’ve done (are doing) it!! Good Luck!!

gmelon Sat 17-Mar-18 20:17:54

The lodger should take the room in the house thats up for sale.
Conveyancing takes time.
She'll have ample weeks in this "spare room" house after a buyer is found.
She can use the time to find her next accommodation.

harrigran Sat 17-Mar-18 20:37:27

Room in a house for sale, more emotional blackmail. The woman is a leech she needs to be removed.

cornergran Sat 17-Mar-18 21:05:11

Good to hear from you annie. Stick to your resolve, she will be gone. Not a situation any of us would choose. Good luck.

sodapop Sat 17-Mar-18 21:12:46

That's right Annie keep strong this woman is playing you.
Think how relieved you will feel when she is gone.
Good luck.

FarNorth Sat 17-Mar-18 21:43:02

Has she fully grasped that she does not have a choice about leaving by 31st March?
And that if she hasn't found somewhere by then she'll have to stay in a hotel or B&B? (And put her stuff in storage.)

She has been unreasonable by not making any effort all this time so any accommodation problems she has as a result of you giving notice are actually of her own making.

Has your DH stopped acting like a wet dishrag, btw?

SpringyChicken Sat 17-Mar-18 22:24:54

Keep your guard up, Annie, until she has gone. If she is desperate enough she'll take the 'lovely' one in the house that's going on the market and she can look for another place from there. The person who's advertised the room is obviously aware that lodgers can be turfed out at short notice and wants to maximise income from his property.

Bathsheba Sat 17-Mar-18 22:26:56

Well done Annie. Stick to your guns. Show this woman you are a force to be reckoned with. Has she started packing yet? If not, why not make a start for her by doing some packing while she's at work?
I look forward to 31st March - wish all us grans could be outside your house cheering you on gringringrin

Cherrytree59 Sat 17-Mar-18 22:52:03

Well done the worm is indeed turning and chucking the cuckoo out the nest to boot!

The more she is making excuses the stronger you are becoming!

Remember there is always the local Premier Inn or Travel lodge.

If she is still there on 31st hold out your hand and say 'keys please'
you could add
'Our son needs them for his visit tomorrow'

Fingers crossed the lodger will lodging at another address very soon.

M0nica Sun 18-Mar-18 12:21:59

keep in touch and we will keep you on the straight and narrow so you do what you know needs to be done.

Start gently hinting towards the date by gathering together any of her belongings that have strayed out of her room and put them back in it, ready for her to pack them. 2 days or so before the final leave date, start moving cleaning materials and heaps of fresh bedlineen and towels into the room. . ready to give the room a quick clean before the visitors arrive. If she is really being recalcitrant, take the curtains down, saying you need to wash them.

eazybee Sun 18-Mar-18 14:48:47

Glad to hear that things are eventually moving, although so painfully slowly that they could grind to a halt.
Passive resistance is the hardest form of opposition to deal with as you have to make the moves all the time.
This is a shocking way to respond to two people who have given her a home for a year. I don't think she fully believes you will go ahead with it.
I still think it is a strange way for a 36 year old woman to want to live.

sparkly1000 Sun 18-Mar-18 15:55:33

My big worry would be that she will temporarily vacate her room for your family yet persuade you or DH to store her stuff for her, then, family visit over, she will worm her way back into your home again claiming homelessness and empty promises of seeking alternative accommodation.

MissAdventure Sun 18-Mar-18 15:59:18

I don't think there will be any chance at all of her getting back in, once she's out!

BlueBelle Sun 18-Mar-18 16:02:55

But where is the husband in all this is he following up to make sure she goes or is he just sitting back and letting Annie be bad cop

grannysyb Sun 18-Mar-18 18:46:44

Once she's gone, change the locks, I wouldn't put anything past her!

FarNorth Sun 18-Mar-18 21:32:55

"This is a shocking way to respond to two people who have given her a home for a year."

But are two people making it clear to her that she has to be gone by the 31st?
Or is one of them telling her not to worry her pretty little head about it?

Annie, definitely don't agree to store any stuff for her. There are bound to be places which store goods, in your area.

Mapleleaf Sun 18-Mar-18 21:47:58

Don't store anything, Anniechip. As I've said before, get those locks changed!!

M0nica Mon 19-Mar-18 18:29:43

Beware of the 'room in a house for sale' tactic. When a house is for sale there are very long forms to fill in requiring, among other things, to state the details of anyone else in the house and their rights to stay there.

How about on March 31st she comes to Annie in tears saying the person who was prepared to let her rent a room in his house has been told by his solicitor that he cannot go ahead with the rent so he has withdrawn the offer and she has nowhere to go.

My solution would be to have a list of self storage firms and local chain hotels and ring for a taxi for her.

Be prepared for any other last minute stunts she may pull to try and stay 'a littlelonger'

FarNorth Tue 20-Mar-18 11:55:28

If she tries that, be firm that you no longer have room for her and suggest she asks some of her other friends to help her for a few nights/weeks/months.

Blinko Tue 20-Mar-18 12:06:22

I think we're all waiting for 31st with baited breath! Good Luck, Anniechip wine