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Help, calm me. House buying and selling stress

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craftyone Thu 21-Mar-19 07:52:20

I have a bad stress headache today, never normally get headaches. I am buying a new house before selling my own, at least that was the plan. There has been a buying hold up, caused by waiting for sight of an important document. All in all 3 months has turned to 8 months. Just waiting for one document, which was `in the post` to nhbc

My buyer, february viewings, is starting to lay on the pressure. I had 25 extra and difficult questions to answer yesterday, some relating to building planning dating back to 6 years before we moved in, a new build.

The whole idea was that I would complete on my new home and move in stress-free, a bit at a time. I will definitely not move to rented. I had a string of people wanting to buy my property and will delay my buyer if needed

The stress is awful, widowed, doing it all myself and even with a good solicitor, I am churning up inside after yesterday`s questions

Ellianne Thu 01-Aug-19 16:28:53

Well done Whiff, that sounds very encouraging! Just keep positive over the weekend.
You're lucky you booked, and I assume paid for Pickfords, next week. We were pencilled in, but now those days are no longer available. So another stressful hurdle to find removal people to do London to Devon on Thursday next week. The saga continues!
Good luck, mosaicwarts.

Whiff Thu 01-Aug-19 15:10:03

After a very tearful morning. I have some good news. I had an e-mail from my solicitor saying my buyers aren't signing till Wednesday. Phoned my estate agent in tears. She phoned my buyers and they are on signing on Wednesday also going to exchange contracts that day and complete on the 9th. They can't wait to move and are excited about living here. At least now I can relax knowing that they aren't going to pull out on me. I've emailed my solicitor and told her what I've been told.
Thank you all for your support. You have all been life savers.
Mosaicwarts you are not bad. My son has just told me off for not telling him how upset I've been . I know my daughter will be phoning soon and she will tell me off as well. Hope everything goes well for you from now keep on.
Good job I 're booked Pickfords on Tuesday for next week.

Ellianne Thu 01-Aug-19 14:13:27

Hang on in there Whiff, it will happen. I appreciate it must be hard on your own. Our agent was saying only yesterday that he recognises that some people need more support than others and he is ready to help. Rely heavily on your agent to chase your buyers in a polite way and to keep you in the picture.
We're all here to help you get through this stressful process. Good luck everyone.

craftyone Thu 01-Aug-19 12:49:46

congratualations Ellianne, at least one person can move forward into a new life. Everything is crossed for everyone else, its like waiting for paint to dry, this waiting for any glimmer of good news

mosaicwarts Thu 01-Aug-19 12:20:22

Congratulations Ellianne, wishing you good weather for the day of your move smile

Whiff, you are such a good mother protecting your children - I am bad and have shares my angst with my two, young as they are. Please let us know what's happening to you later, sending you a virtual hug x

Whiff Thu 01-Aug-19 12:15:07

Ellianne I am very happy for you. At least you can feel secure and look forward to life in your new home. Just wish I could have good news but I am not optimistic. Keep on crying and then I get annoyed with myself for doing it. Sorry for having a moan but I feel I will go mad otherwise. I don't want to phone my kids as they don't need their mom crying on the phone. It would just make them feel guilty for no being here. I know I am stronger than this but just for once I want someone to look after me and make all the decisions.

Ellianne Thu 01-Aug-19 11:36:55

I don't believe it! It's done, we're home and dry and ready to move on August 9th!! After lots of expletives from our agent this morning and solicitors threatening to report each other they finally got their act together! Last night our buyers managed to contact their buyer direct and lo and behold she thought she had already exchanged when she paid her deposit two weeks ago!! Grrrr. How incompetent is her agent?!
Anyway, I shall have everything crossed for the rest of you. Get your agent to be bold and rattle a few cages incase there's a stupid mix up going on!

Ellianne Thu 01-Aug-19 08:54:17

Fingers crossed.

Nannytopsy Thu 01-Aug-19 08:52:07

Good luck today Whiff

mosaicwarts Thu 01-Aug-19 08:15:51

Morning Whiff, thinking of you this morning, sending positive thoughts. I wonder what time they get back?

Sorry you have to faff with your BP every morning, I hope it isn't high.

Whiff Thu 01-Aug-19 08:08:28

You can tell what state I am in my BP is up. I have to take it every morning as when I had jaundice it left me with a heart condition. Nothing to serious but as part of the management I have to take my BP . If it high for 3 days it's a trip to the drs. Like you Ellianne I have a good estate agents. They have been brilliant and a great support. Put it this way when my first buyer pulled out I sat in their office in tears for a hour. I felt sorry for the estate agent the second time when she phoned me she upset when she phoned. No good worrying. Just have to wait and see what happens today.

Ellianne Wed 31-Jul-19 20:16:17

We all seem to be echoing each other here, we too accepted the offer in April and are still waiting to exchange. I can't repeat what our agent has uttered in frustration, he will have earned his commission if the sale comes to fruition. If it doesn't we will still use him again for the next round.
Franbern have you decided on a removal company?

Whiff Wed 31-Jul-19 19:44:04

Tomorrow my buyers come back from hols. And I should know if they sign the contracts and that they will go ahead with the exchange on Friday. I know only full well that they can come back tomorrow and have changed their minds and I will be back to square one. It's happened to me twice it can happen again.
I accepted their offer in March tomorrow it will be August.
A friend took me out for the day to get my mind off things.
I hate how unfair the buying and selling of properties is. As buyers and sellers we have no security and people leave us in Limbo for months on end and don't care.

Franbern Wed 31-Jul-19 16:11:45

Thanks for info on buses. My SiL downloaded bus maps for WsM for me, and emailed them to me. I know that I can get buses into Bristol and places like Wells.
I am in a strange mood at present. I have accepted the offer on my house, actually it is the highest offer I received and only £500 under the price the house was listed at.
However, I have stopped the purchase on the flat I was considering. will need to pay the solicitors for the work they did on that.
But, just feel that I do not trust anyone any more in the house selling lark. So, I want to wait this time, until the sale of my house is well under way before actually making any offer on another flat.
At a coffee morning today someone was telling me that they accepted an offer on their house, near here, in January and are just now waiting for exchange of contracts.
So, on that basis I will probably be here into next year, so no rush on purchasing.
Still not sure what i want to do, being difficult - when things are going well, I want to stay and when things are going badly, I want to move.
Ellianne, so sorry to learn that you feel you may need to put your house back on the market, you seemed to close to moving.
When I started my house was listed at 'Offers in Excess of' however all offers were below that price, so when the first time the sale fell through it was just marketed at that price and the offers were below..........(virtually identical to when it had been marketed at OiE. So this time it went back on the market at that price, and the offer I have received is very close - as I said just £500 below. So, will be more than happy if this goes to completion - however such a big IF.
Good Luck Mosiacwarts, looks like you may be getting two offers in the near future. 14 rooms, sound so big.

craftyone Wed 31-Jul-19 14:44:49

Yes the market is still very slow Ellianne, nothing much has been coming up for sale in the area I used to live in, the ones on sale have been on sale for well over a year, one was re-hashed with a 5k rice reduction with another EA. People have different expectations right now eg I think a reno is attractive with a potential for a buyer to upscale. Poor internet and mobile signals are not attractive. My other one did not have a mobile signal, I bet my buyer never researched that

Mosaics, you have done a sterling job and had a very good test, at least whatever happens you will now be dry. Time to lay down your paint brush and take some days off, wait and see what friday brings before doing any more

I had a few hours off today and decided to try the bus to Wells and it went like clockwork. Had a nice rest on the bus, people chatting to strangers and full enough to keep the bus company happy. It was an 8 minute walk to that stop in the centre but I forgot about one way systems because of a narrow road and there is a stop just 2 minutes from my house, the buses all stop there, all of them so I am a very happy bunny. They stop there on the way out and on the way back because of the traffic system. I am jumping for joy because I am even more future proofed. That bus stops outside various supermarkets and in some small areas with lots of shops, cafe and very old buildings. It was a lovely ride with many trees

Wells was totally gorgeous, uplifting market day and I bought cherries as big as kent cherries, small herb plants for my garden and some things in waitrose. I noticed that buses from Wells go to Bristol temple meads (station) and to Bath as well as to Weston super mare. Franbern, the world is your oyster, bus pass will be your friend

Nannytopsy Wed 31-Jul-19 09:28:42

Our 27 questions arrived, some as daft as “is there decking in the back garden?!”.
All answered, with paperwork, then posted in 90 minutes for delivery yesterday. Emailed solicitors and suggested they might like to work at a similar speed. Not impressed that they didn’t acknowledge delivery.
I also dropped in that my brother, a retired solicitor, could do a house conveyance in a week!

Ellianne Wed 31-Jul-19 09:27:52

Nice to hear your story craftyone and encouraged to hear there is light at the end of the tunnel. House selling is such a stressful process, but the rewards make it worthwhile ..... provided it doesn't turn you crazy!
We are moving to an expensive location where not much comes onto the market so we are trying to hang onto our prospective purchase for dear life. Our buyers are in tune with us over price etc. It's just the cash buyer at the bottom who holds the cards and is stalling. Hopefully an extension on the time will see a result, but no one wants to wait forever and then be let down. Grrr.

mosaicwarts Wed 31-Jul-19 08:12:25

craftyone, I remember your words of almost wanting to give the house away when you were helping me with my low offer dilemma. I was an idiot to write to the EA about it, I should have telephoned her but had such an awful cold it was difficult to talk at the time. I reread her response email the other day, it did seem that she was working for the buyer rather than me sad I can hardly believe it happened, and wonder where I'd be now if I had accepted. I do wonder what Steve would have done. I must try to be more positive and look forward to the day 'the one' comes along.

Proud of myself for painting both of the ceilings yesterday, we've had torrential downpours and the bathroom ceiling is dry smile I was nervous about the bedroom ceiling and painting over my head, but managed by bending down to the paint pot on the mantlepiece. I thought of Angel at Escape to the Chateau while I was doing it - I wonder if she is anxious about her house! Their bills must be magnificently huge! Didn't hear any gurgling when I was in bed but might have slept through, I feel drained at the moment.

I have photographed the bike to sell but I can't decide what to sell it for as I know I have sold other things far too cheap. Off to the beach, then I'll come back and research it, I've got scary outgoings this month. Big oil bill, boiler parts needed no idea what they are going to cost plus the service, aga service, and my handbrake cables have gone again. My son rang yesterday and is worried about the cost of the Edinburgh fringe trip, so I'm going to have to fork out for his train fare. At least he didn't ask me for money, seems he is finally earning enough to live.

Have a great day whatever you are doing smile

craftyone Wed 31-Jul-19 06:32:05

I started off determined to accept no lower than 430 on my 450 asking price. Three people loved the house but had houses to sell and the market was stagnant. I wanted to sell so decided to bite the bullet and reduce to 425. That price attracted a lot more viewers, I reached a psychological stress point of almost wanting to give it away. Then I had the cash-buy offer of 395 and I felt insulted, I rejected it. Slept uneasily and got back to EA to accept it. He said to wait, that they would try and get a bit more. He got 400, which I accepted. My new house was 375

I did the right thing, I am out and have no more worries about this and that. I am glad I did the reduction, a lovely graded house came online in that village, only a week ago, gorgeous well maintained, beautiful garden. They only asked 395 and it sold in a week. If I had waited then my house would not have sold. It is all down to price, not what we wish for but what a buyer will actually pay, that is the true value

Ellianne Tue 30-Jul-19 20:08:34

Thanks Mosaicwarts, I'm glad there is someone showing a keen interest in your house. That Place in the Sun programme is crazy when it comes to people making silly offers. I much prefer Phil Spencer who tells buyers if they really want the place they need to offer the asking price or very close.
Whiff is correct to say we shouldn't sell ourselves short as vendors especially if it's our last move. We have decided that a small drop next time round is possible to still get what we want.
Fingers crossed everyone!

Whiff Tue 30-Jul-19 19:40:43

Mosaicwarts thank you for that. Hope you are feeling better.

mosaicwarts Tue 30-Jul-19 18:48:45

Forgot to add my message to you Whiff, fingers crossed for Friday. Awful to wish time away but I know it can't come fast enough for you! smile x

mosaicwarts Tue 30-Jul-19 18:41:42

So very sorry to see your news Ellianne. Can you still afford to buy the place you want/like if you accept a lower offer? I found out today one of Friday's viewers loves the house and may put in an offer ... apparently she has driven past a few times today. Shame I had the bin bag on the front step!

I was on for £450K in May when I had an offer for £390K - his final offer was £395K. I was horrified he offered £60K less than the asking price and felt I was in the 'desperate to sell silly old woman category' in his eyes. I went on the internet the night I was trying to decide whether to accept or not, and there is a website where people are discussing their 'low offers' and how they manipulated the owners into accepting them. People play horrible mind games. I was watching Place in the Sun today and a man liked a property priced at £120K - he offered £91K! No idea how he justified offering £29K less than the asking price - the presenter was quite shocked too!

Easy low ceiling done, hard high bedroom one left to do. Not quite sure how I'm going to go up and down the ladder to the paint tin, I suppose slowly and carefully is the answer! Haven't got a hanging tin thing anymore.

Fell asleep on the sofa and have woken up feeling dreadful, off to the beach in a minute to clear my head. Have a good evening smile

Ellianne Tue 30-Jul-19 18:33:14

Whiff hopefully our agent will tell new viewers that last time round we had two offers at the full asking price. We're of course now wishing we had gone with the other people but they didn't want to move until September, (ironically we're not that far off September now!).

Whiff Tue 30-Jul-19 17:47:48

Ellianne. I stuck to the same asking price which was £220,000 first time accepted that ,second time accepted £210,000 ,this time I accepted £207,000 . Because it was supposed to be a quick sale. If the worst happens this time and they pull out. I will stick to the asking price but won't accept anything below £210,00. That was what I decided I would accept when I first put it on the market March last year. You have to decide what you are happy to accept.
But don't sell yourself short.

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