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WWYD - Ugly Painted Exterior House Wall

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SynchroSwimmer Sat 06-Jul-19 19:01:24

Can I ask for views and advice - what you would do?

I have a combined rear house, garage and garden wall that spans a long line of about 35 metres, which also forms my boundary.

For 20 years it was overlooking open countryside, it was (an ugly) natural cream/grey render, not a problem visually as it was north facing and we didn’t see it.

My late husband and I agreed at the outset that we did not want to get into a situation where we had to keep re-painting the surface and we were happy to leave it in it’s natural condition.

Fast forward to now and new houses were built recently, so now I have a neighbour who has to face out with a dominating view of the wall.

The first house occupant asked if he could paint the wall, I explained that we had previously not wanted to get into a situation of having to regularly re-paint the surface, hence we had left it in it’s original condition, but in the interests of neighbourliness, I agreed to his request and at his suggestion, he purchased the paint, and I helped in part with a bit of labour where I could.

I am now in the situation where new owners are purchasing the house, I am aware that the paint surface has flaked badly and deteriorated in the meantime and at some point think that there will be a wish by the new owner to cosmetically improve the appearance - the view that they have to look out on.

I would prefer to stick with my original thoughts i.e - that I don’t want the cost, worry or to be concerned with maintenance of a painted surface - just for cosmetic reasons - for something that I don’t have to look at.

If or when the new owners move in - and ask me - would it be reasonable or unreasonable for me to continue with this stance?

...and if they offer to paint it for their own benefit, I would have to say yes, but subject to the correct type of approved specialist masonry type paint being applied I guess?

Would I offer half the cost of the materials?

To add to my concerns (and guilt trip!) the man who sold the house onwards has a similar issue in his new property, he has an ugly wall, which he is paying to have painted because his new neighbours “shouldn’t have to look at it”

I want to be fair and neighbourly, I am normally overgenerous to a fault in my approach, but at the same time I don’t want to set any sort of longstanding precedent that might penalise me financially in the future.

I am also very easy going and a good neighbour, never with any problems but currently feel suddenly under siege from a number of sides, different neighbours suddenly putting garden waste over my fence on one side, another throwing cigarette butts, another stones, another sending branches over, some groundworks that I had not agreed to, and another having scalped my hedge whilst I was away for a few days - so I may have to be more assertive if it looks like I am a walkover....but that’s another issue - just getting that off my chest!

Grateful for any advice on the wall - WWYD

Septimia Sat 06-Jul-19 19:12:38

We had a rather old but serviceable fence at the back of our house which we didn't really see as we concentrate on the view from the front and the bit of land at the back is narrow and seldom used. A previous neighbour asked if he could replace the fence, even though it was theoretically ours, as he was selling his house and wanted to tart things up. We had no problem with that and he paid for it.

Second set of new neighbours on and they put up new, higher fence on their side of the boundary without even speaking to us about it. So we took down the first replacement fence, gained a foot or two of land (we know where the actual boundary is) and used said fence to replace the old tatty one at the front of the house.

So I would say to your new neighbours (if they ask you!) that if they want to paint the wall, they can, but the paintwork is their responsibility.

Cherrytree59 Sat 06-Jul-19 19:16:13

Ivy?
I'm actually not a fan of ivy but an end garden wall on my road is covered on both sides and looks ok as it is evergreen.

I covered my side of an ugly orange fence (proudly told by owner on day one that it would never require creosoting shock) in 3 fast growing Honeysuckle.

ElaineI Sat 06-Jul-19 22:35:19

I doubt there would be any legal justification for you to paint the wall or pay for materials unless it is in disrepair and may cause harm to a person or property. I think it depends on the importance to you about relationships with your neighbours. You seem to have a few problems with neighbours though - some appear reasonable for you to be upset and others a bit strange so maybe you need to evaluate whether you generally have issues with other people or if the painting problem is genuine.

Calendargirl Sun 07-Jul-19 09:36:26

I suppose it’s ok for new neighbours to paint the fence (at their expense) if they want to, but then if they move it won’t necessarily be taken on board by new owners.
I’m sorry if you have issues with neighbours, I know I would find it very upsetting.

ninathenana Sun 07-Jul-19 09:37:00

If it were me, I'd be thinking "Well you bought the house knowing the wall was there, not my problem"

I would allow him to paint it with a suitable masonry paint entirely at his own expense and I wouldn't be offering my labour. If I've read it right you will not see his paint job so why would you feel obliged to share the cost. He is doing it for his benefit alone. Obviously if the wall was unsound it would be a different matter.

crazyH Sun 07-Jul-19 09:43:55

If he wants to improve his 'view' of the wall, then he will have to do the job at his expense. I certainly wouldn't offer to pay for anything. Its his problem.
Good luck !

PamelaJ1 Sun 07-Jul-19 09:47:29

I'm with nina and crazy.
Maybe they could paint a mural!

mosaicwarts Sun 07-Jul-19 10:57:44

What a horrid problem, as well as losing your view. I certainly wouldn't want neighbours in my garden painting my wall.

As it's north facing, I think I'd use the cheapest method of attached a framework to the wall, and grow a climbing hyrangea, or ivy. Some roses also thrive in north facing areas. I had a book by Geoff Hamilton which gave recommendations for climbers on north facing walls, I'll find it and come back later.

So sorry the land was sold and this has happened. The back of my current house overlooks the railway line so will never be overlooked at the back, but there is a field at the front that may be sold one day.

GrannyLiv Sun 07-Jul-19 11:11:07

Another vote for the stance advocated by Ninathenana.

SueDonim Sun 07-Jul-19 11:32:11

Presumably he saw the wall when he first viewed his own property so he knew what it was like. I don't know why you need do anything.

M0nica Sun 07-Jul-19 11:54:06

I would grow plants up it.

SynchroSwimmer Fri 12-Jul-19 08:52:39

Thanks everyone, some good helpful answers.
I will wait and see what develops...

Beckett Fri 12-Jul-19 09:35:24

Say nothing until they do. It could be the condition of the paint on the wall hasn't even crossed their mind