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I seem to have an unwanted visitor in the kitchen

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Supernana1 Wed 30-Nov-22 14:36:53

For a while now there has been a gap in the baseboards in the corner under my kitchen cabinets. A couple of times I've noticed my dog's soft toy was tight up against the gap, as if somebody was trying to pull it underneath the cabinets.

Then last night one of my granddaughter's trainers was jammed in the corner. I moved it to join its mate at the back door but an hour later one trainer had disappeared.

I've just removed the baseboards to find one trainer, three soft dog toys, a roll of sandwich bags (completely unrolled), a dog ball, two yellow dusters, two packs of kitchen wipes and a roll of unused microfibre cloths.

What sort of animal would do this? They weren't piled up to make a nest, just scattered here and there.

The kitchen items were obviously taken from a shelf under the sink and the other (dog) items would have been on the kitchen floor. Our dog won't leave his toys in a box, he likes them scattered everywhere.

I'm mystified. By the way, there is no sign of any animal droppings.

Can anybody help please? The dog's sight and hearing aren't too good but I haven't even seen him sniffing at the base of the cabinets.

Whatever is doing this, dragging all these items under the cabinets, is very quiet and leaves no trace behind.

Now I've got to try to put the baseboards back!

grandtanteJE65 Fri 02-Dec-22 14:42:32

My immediate thought reading this was one or more rats.

They can make very long underground tunnels, so the lack of droppings in your kitchen are not conclusive proof that it is not rats.

Mice certainly cannot move a trainer.

It could also be a weasel or some member of the weasel's extended family.

Whatever it is, you don't want it in or near your kitchen, so do get the nearest pest control person in.

Much as I love animals, I have little compunction when it comes to rats!

Happysexagenarian Fri 02-Dec-22 14:10:37

My money's on it being rats. It's amazing the very small spaces they can get through and the large objects they can move around. Most winter's we hear them moving between the walls and behind the boiler, a nice cosy place. They don't venture into the rooms and we don't do anything about them, they leave in the Spring. Though we do check the wiring in the loft every year as one year they destroyed some of it. Occasionally I see one scuttle across the patio and disappear under the barbecue. For the most part I can accept rats and mice as part and parcel of living in the country.

Theoddbird Fri 02-Dec-22 12:43:18

Borrowers. Most homes have them... grin

SparklyGrandma Fri 02-Dec-22 12:38:36

I have two 19 week old kittens, there’s not even a moth left - they’ve taken and eaten flies, spiders etc. Just suggesting…

Lauren59 Fri 02-Dec-22 12:31:11

Please don’t use any kind of bait/poison. It’s quite inhumane and the dead rodents could be eaten by other animals.

greenlady102 Fri 02-Dec-22 12:21:30

Ampersand

I would think it's either squirrels or mice. I had a similar problem and called in pest control.

They told me the best thing to do is fill every gap with wire wool as rodents hate it - problem solved - never returned

Hope this solves the problem

wire wool is a cheaper option but if there is the slightest amount of damp, it will rust through quite quickly. A better option would be to use stainless steel pan scrubbers or stainless steel fine wire mesh (it looks like knitted wire) which I bought on Amazon when I needed to block holes in my shed.

semperfidelis Fri 02-Dec-22 12:21:25

I hate to say this, but when I lived in an old cottage, I found the fruit bowl was being raided overnight. There were no droppings. But then we discovered that a rat had somehow got in through the eaves, and the Council came and laid poison. The fruit never disappeared again.

FarawayGran Fri 02-Dec-22 12:05:29

A similar thing happened to us. I had left a pair of leggings on the bathroom floor, and when I tried to pick them up I felt them being pulled back. A tug-of-war left me with leggings that had been ripped and chewed.
Later, my daughter was having a shower (over the bath) and heard a scraping sound under the bath.
I thought it might be mice, as we get field mice indoors occasionally, so we called in Pest Control .
When he took the bath panel off, he said "That's no mouse!" We found all sorts of things, all chewed. He said the rat was building a nest, and we were lucky to have found it in time before there was a family of rats.
We have no idea how it got in. Luckily it wasn't possible (I think) for it to get into the house.
Call Pest Control!

Delila Fri 02-Dec-22 12:04:13

The most likely culprit is a rat. My daughter had a pet rat and she occasionally allowed it to run around freely (I know shock….)
It used its freedom to collect things, some of them quite big and cumbersome, some shiny objects like coins, and stow them in a little cavity it made in the back of the sofa. Never any sign of droppings.

Twig14 Fri 02-Dec-22 11:57:59

I think it’s a rat. We had them in a cavity wall. They actually started to gnaw through breeze block to try to get in. Brought pest control never saw one all sorted. Decking can be a hiding place as well for them.

Normandygirl Fri 02-Dec-22 11:55:17

Years ago we had a similar situation. Items going missing or being moved in the kitchen and ending up near the boxed in pipework in the corner of the room. No droppings anywhere and no smells. It went on for weeks until the day I came home and found a half eaten Mars bar with the wrapper removed on the breakfast bar and a nibbled apple in the fruit bowl. Called in pest control who set traps for rats, but they too were puzzled by lack of droppings. Next day the culprit was caught and turned out to be a grey squirrel who was nesting in next door's attic and coming down the pipe for his snacks.

Ampersand Fri 02-Dec-22 11:49:43

I would think it's either squirrels or mice. I had a similar problem and called in pest control.

They told me the best thing to do is fill every gap with wire wool as rodents hate it - problem solved - never returned

Hope this solves the problem

mousemac Fri 02-Dec-22 11:47:22

Rats don't scatter droppings everywhere. It's mice that do that. Rats normally have a distinct latrine area - and they're not at all smelly.
I tend to agree that it's more likely to be a squirrel, but whatever it is, it must surely be getting in from outside. You can mend the baseboard securely, but if it were me I would want to find out where it is actually getting into the wall.

lostsoul Fri 02-Dec-22 11:46:09

I would say this is a rat or rats. I had them come in and get under the kitchen units, lots of damage done.

DeeDe Fri 02-Dec-22 11:45:56

Does sound like a squirrel or rat, definitely get it sealed up, before they move their family in .

Georgesgran Fri 02-Dec-22 11:42:11

It does sound as if the OP’s visitor is a rat(s) but the lack of droppings and smell is strange. Worth getting the pest people in to check, at least they will discuss what to do and remove any bodies afterwards. Dead rats smell like open sewers!
My friend’s son is a very imaginative primary school teacher, so she managed to make 4 togas from a sheet - who knew - as he wanted to do a Roman feast, so a length of chicken on a skewer became ‘roasted dormouse’. The kids loved it!

readsalot Fri 02-Dec-22 11:36:56

I’m going with rat too. My DD keeps fancy rats as pets and this is typical behaviour. Please call pest control for peace of mind.

Scottiebear Fri 02-Dec-22 11:35:59

I'd have thought, if it were rats, then things would be chewed. And there would be droppings. Are you sure the dog isn't doing it when he's bored or left alone?

Keekaboo Fri 02-Dec-22 11:31:26

Call your local council pest control is an awful lot cheaper through them and they come back 4 or 5 times.
I had to call them in two years ago it cost £50. Recently my friends son who lives beside me called them in he heard a scraping noise in between his wall and the next door neighbour.
Also some of the items under his kitchen cupboard had been moved and the lid off his carton of cleaner had been removed and chewed. So it wasn’t a mouse because the container was actually about 4 inches wide. Also the smell was horrible.
Please call in pest control if you can afford to. Otherwise Amazon sell boxes with bait too you could try first.

Goldencity Fri 02-Dec-22 11:25:01

While you have the boards off, look underneath the cabinets to see if there are any holes where “it” could be getting in. Plumbers often leave gaps around waste pipes or there could be a broken air brick. Clean it all out and sprinkle talc or similar powder round- lean the boards back in position for a few days then check for paw prints!

Nannan2 Fri 02-Dec-22 11:25:00

Dont think id fancy eating any kind of dormouse! Urgh.!🤮

Blossoming Fri 02-Dec-22 11:23:24

It’s a European edible dormouse Nannan9. Much bigger than the cute native British dormouse.

Madashell Fri 02-Dec-22 11:22:46

Obviously - The Borrowers

Nannan2 Fri 02-Dec-22 11:21:25

A glis glis? Is that the dormouse then?

polnan Fri 02-Dec-22 11:19:30

oh I do hope that supernanal comes back and tells us what it is or was