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Bungalow on an awkward plot - to buy or not?

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RusBun Sun 10-Sept-23 00:37:11

We are deliberating whether to buy a corner plot bungalow we have seen. The house seems OK, built in the 80-s, in sound condition and spacious enough, but the back garden is small and shallow – only 7m (23ft) deep and 14m (46ft) wide. The garden backs into other shallow neighbours’ gardens.

The garage with a driveway are awkwardly positioned from the other side round the corner, so it is a bit of a walk with your shopping.

The shallow garden does not give a scope for extension. In addition, the chimney is placed between the kitchen and a lounge, protruding into the kitchen, making it difficult to fit a kitchen or take a wall out to create an open plan (which is what we ultimately want). The house needs the usual renovating with a new kitchen, bathrooms and carpets, but this is reflected in the price, which is unusually affordable for us.

The property has been on the market several times over the years but did not sell and we are worried it will be difficult for us to re-sell it later on if we need to.

RusBun Sun 10-Sept-23 15:39:07

Nannarose

PS: I may have misunderstood as to whether it is your 'last home' or not - if you are likely to sell to fund your 'last home' then you may well need to consider resale value - but you can ask the estate agent.

It is not possible to predict for sure where and how you will die - in your bungalow or in a care home after selling the bungalow, so we are trying to accommodate both options and the possibility of having to sell later on. What we don't want is go into a flat, we are coming out of a flat as we miss being independent from neighbours and associated issues.

pascal30 Sun 10-Sept-23 16:25:09

Looking at the floor plans I also see a lot of potential for reconfigurating it. If I was in your position I would get an architect to look at it..

Oreo Sun 10-Sept-23 16:36:43

I think it looks fine tbh and if you get it for a reasonable price then great.
A small garden is better if you are older in any case.

Caravansera Sun 10-Sept-23 16:47:40

Thank you RusBun for explaining more about your circumstances. You both sound very brave, determined and practical. I can see how your professional skills would enable you to see the potential in a property that many others might not see. We can only see an aerial view and the floor plan so it may well be that you can fix, fairly easily, some of the things that have deterred others from buying it and make it more saleable in the future. I would still be wary of the position on the bend though.

Sometimes, other things end up compensating for what doesn’t seem ideal at the time.

When late DH and I moved to this house, I was 28, it ticked a box (my only absolute was that it be detached - no neighbour noise through party walls) but I wasn’t in love with the place and it seemed small compared to where we were coming from - a very large semi with 300 feet of garden. In actual fact, the floor space is almost the same, but square rather than rectangular, the garden a third of the size but more than enough.

Choice was very limited by what we could afford. We wanted to move quickly and there were only three houses in our price range. The nicest one had character but was on a main and very busy road so that was discounted immediately. I cannot bear traffic noise - one of the reasons we were moving from a house just up from a bend. The second nicest was on the wrong side of town for me, too far from the railway station involving a traffic-clogged, cross-town bus journey. It would have increased rather than decreased my daily commute, another reason for moving. So we bought the third, in a very quiet lane and close to the station.

Forty years later and widowed going on twenty years, the things that bugged me then about the house and which can’t be changed, still bug me now but it has proved to be a wonderful community to live in. I value it even more now that am forty years older and alone.

I also have an auto immune condition, diagnosed out of the blue at 60 so I know how drastically the chronic fatigue that comes with it can change our lives. A garden blitz, which I love to do, can also leave me exhausted for days. I’m not yet ready to get a man in as I like to garden but that time may be approaching. Stairs are manageable even when I am at my lowest ebb. I’ve realised there are stairs and stairs. Recently, I helped a friend to clear his mother’s house after she had gone into care. The stairs in her 1950s house seemed (and were) so much steeper than mine, I suppose because it’s a much smaller house, the angle needs to be more acute to achieve the same height. How she managed until she was 95 with arthritic joints, no stairlift and no downstairs loo remains a mystery. I mention it as there might just be a house out there for you where stairs are comparatively shallow and manageable, lift or no.

You said, would this property suit US (your emphasis)? You don’t need anyone to tell you that you have to be pragmatic about all the best and worst possible scenarios that life could throw at you both even in the next ten years. I know only too well, but the imperfect house could turn out to be the nicest community.

Do some sleuthing about the apparent lack of sales appeal for others and keep us posted. I wish you luck.

Woollywoman Sun 10-Sept-23 16:53:34

Oreo, seconded. Rusbun, we moved to a newbuild bungalow in May after a long search. It’s so hard to find a suitable bungalow that doesn’t need loads doing to it, and even though ours is in a busier location than we would have liked, I feel we have done the right thing. Nowhere is perfect.
I think taking a builder round with you might help you decide.
Good luck!

Romola Sun 10-Sept-23 18:03:50

Rusbun, reading all the details you've given us about your life, constraints, personal preferences, I would say, go for this bungalow.
No house is perfect, even when money is no object. And this bungalow does tick a lot of your boxes. With some ingenious alterations it could work well.
It may eventually take a while to sell, but so what?

FarNorth Sun 10-Sept-23 18:09:38

Callistemon21

I've been looking on RightMove and other sites for some considerable time and many bungalows go very quickly.
Those that linger for months are either over-priced or have something wrong with the layout or location.

Not everyone has the same likes or needs and a lot of things can be changed, or can be accepted if there are other advantages.

In OP's situation, this sounds as if it could be good.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 10-Sept-23 18:43:34

Buyers are aware of what needs to be done to a property and this one has apparently been priced to take account of that, yet it is still very much cheaper than other properties needing similar work and it has a history of not being easy to sell. There’s a reason for that and it won’t be down to some internal work being needed. I keep an eye on Rightmove with a view to moving nearer my son and I see a lot of properties sticking despite price reductions; one property has just been reduced by £100k. If you look very carefully you can often identify the problem online. Look at the planning history, Google Earth and the Land Registry title. You can find out a huge amount from your armchair. There may be no such thing as the perfect property, but it would have to be very nearly so before I considered it - and those which are not selling are not always simply overpriced. There’s always a reason.

Hetty58 Sun 10-Sept-23 19:20:17

GSM, yes - one that had been for sale a long time was prone to flooding - so no thanks.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 10-Sept-23 19:37:42

Exactly what I found with an otherwise lovely house.

Hetty58 Sun 10-Sept-23 19:49:42

(and) RusBun:

'It is not possible to predict for sure where and how you will die - in your bungalow or in a care home'

or in hospital? This reminds me of 'The best laid plans of mice and men'

My mother decided on a care home. Of the three she occupied in her last year (all horrendously expensive, 'luxury', rated 'Good' - yet all totally inadequate for her needs) the BUPA one really took the biscuit.

They 'kindly' (they said) reduced her fee a little while she was in hospital. They kept her room available for her - doing her, and us, a great big favour, apparently - but would have to 'discuss things further' after Christmas'. Utterly disgraceful!

MadeInYorkshire Sun 10-Sept-23 20:00:24

It sounds as though it is in a nice area - I think I would consider knocking the kitchen into the hallway, people nowadays tend to refer bigger kitchens, or melded living spaces. The rear garden I would make into a courtyard garden with no lawn, you have enough of that around the front, and I had a tiny courtyard garden in my last house with no growing ground at all, and if you cant grow out, you grow up with containers at different levels - people came to look at my very small space for the village open gardens, after being round everyone's huge gardens where they had manicured lawns and gardeners, lots of colourful evergreen structure and perennial flowers in between, it worked!

Is that a dead space between the side of the house and the garage? Could you extend into that and reconfigure the bedrooms and create an entrance there too so it is closer to the garage? Just needs someone creative I think to have a look and give you some ideas, as well as research as to why it hasn't sold previously!

RusBun Sun 10-Sept-23 20:09:04

MadeInYorkshire

It sounds as though it is in a nice area - I think I would consider knocking the kitchen into the hallway, people nowadays tend to refer bigger kitchens, or melded living spaces. The rear garden I would make into a courtyard garden with no lawn, you have enough of that around the front, and I had a tiny courtyard garden in my last house with no growing ground at all, and if you cant grow out, you grow up with containers at different levels - people came to look at my very small space for the village open gardens, after being round everyone's huge gardens where they had manicured lawns and gardeners, lots of colourful evergreen structure and perennial flowers in between, it worked!

Is that a dead space between the side of the house and the garage? Could you extend into that and reconfigure the bedrooms and create an entrance there too so it is closer to the garage? Just needs someone creative I think to have a look and give you some ideas, as well as research as to why it hasn't sold previously!

It is a dead space between the side of the house and the garage, we were thinking of putting an office pod for the DH there perhaps. He is better outside the main house to keep it quiet.

You could turn the whole house plan left to right, and they should have built it like that in the first place. But we would like to minimise building work as much as possible, as all the services and pipes to the kitchen will have to be moved, and that is a big job.

Would love to see the pictures of your courtyard garden for inspirations. I created an interesting garden from scratch before, and it was the selling point for the house.

Susie42 Mon 11-Sept-23 16:01:22

We looked at a bungalow on a corner plot before buying our present home. It was perfect, exactly suited to our needs but for the fact that it had a fast food outlet and a general store on the other corner. I found out from one of the neighbours that it was being sold because the owners couldn't cope with the rubbish dumped in their front and back gardens although the couple who bought it have been there almost as long we have been in our house.

JayDee60 Mon 11-Sept-23 17:20:56

I too wouldn’t buy. The fact that you’re querying it means you have doubts and you want to be happy and not wondering if you’ve done the right thing. Move on, there’ll be another one out there for you.

Nicolenet Mon 11-Sept-23 17:23:24

Location is most important. I would prefer the worst building in the best street... The price is right, go for it. List what you like: detached, garage etc and tick boxes. Good luck

greenlady102 Mon 11-Sept-23 17:25:15

dragonfly46

As someone said upthread if you are having doubts don't do it. When buying a house you need to be sure it is what you want in your heart.

pretty much what i was going to say. While you do have to think with your head about such a big purchase, if your heart is dubious then don't do it.....and it sounds like your heart is dubious.

albertina Mon 11-Sept-23 17:35:37

Don't do it. Find somewhere that gives you a positive feeling, not all this worry.

Awesomegranny Mon 11-Sept-23 17:37:54

Work out how much you need to spend and put in a low offer reflecting this. Bungalows are sort after in good condition and currently this one isn’t. Everything has a price, maybe the price currently is too high anyway which is why it isn’t selling. You need to consider if you are prepared to do work and live in a mess for a while

Nannashirlz Mon 11-Sept-23 17:53:00

I would get a notebook out and write down all the pros and cons of why you should or shouldn’t buy it. Then you got your answer personally I would worry about landslides myself but it’s your choice and money

susytish Mon 11-Sept-23 18:07:10

Only advice I think of, my late uncle was an Estate Agent, is think about how easy it would be to sell, before you buy!

MadeInYorkshire Mon 11-Sept-23 18:10:20

*Rusbun - some of my courtyard garden for you .... I can't seem to find the ones from when I opened the garden up, may be on a different computer!

I think the 2nd and 3rd are from the winter, so it was colourful all year round ... the summer ones had more flowers.

4allweknow Mon 11-Sept-23 18:11:17

You have so many queries about the building, garden, access. So many I'd say you aren't totally keen on the whole property. Is it on at a very attractive price or location for family etc otherwise seem more negatives than positives.

Lin663 Mon 11-Sept-23 18:14:34

If you have to ask the question, you already know the answer! Don’t do it!

DeeDe Mon 11-Sept-23 18:18:00

Personally no, if what you can’t change presents a problem then I wouldn’t touch it…