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Please help me get through my daughters marriage split

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Franski Sun 03-Nov-24 18:34:34

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Franski Sun 03-Nov-24 18:33:30

I agree with others..be the calm, syeadu predictable presence for your GD. Have visits to you associated with consistent familiar smells-for example..your perfume, or favourite flowers, or furniure polish, . Scented candles or loo spray. Keep things routine...the same familar things when she comes. Comforting homecooked foods. Music. Rhymes. Books. Basically all the sensory things that go deep into a child's memory bank. She will feel grounded and safe. You sound a lovely caring gran!

JaneJudge Thu 05-Sept-24 11:35:19

I agree with not spaghetti, you have been through your own trauma. My daughter has a disability and I often (always?) feel like I think of her before I think of me and sometimes it’s exhausting.

Everything you’ve posted sounds really hard, really difficult things to cope with and in some ways will explain the break up of the marriage as there was so much stress.

Lots of love to all of you. You’ll all get through it and your grand daughter will be fine x

NotSpaghetti Thu 05-Sept-24 11:19:39

JTH65 can I just add, you too have had an "overload" and have been functioning as other people's rock.

Give yourself a pat on the back for just surviving all your various worries. No wonder you are wonderingwhat to do.

Take yourself for a walk now and again - or at least spend an hour in a garden - and breathe some outside air. Blow away some of this accumulated emotional pain for a little while.

flowers

JTH65 Wed 04-Sept-24 22:43:30

Oh I do support her and have been for a very long time, I think that’s why I was struggling. The responses I have had have reiterated to my brain that I am doing everything right and I can now step back and just be there when needed, if needed. I was and am just concerned that involving her child with a “friend meet up” All be it in the park, is too soon after only four dates. When I asked for help I was at my worst but have now accepted this is life today. It moves quickly. Thank you for your response.

pascal30 Wed 04-Sept-24 11:59:24

If I read correctly your DD has MS, she has a young child, she has started a new job and been abandoned by her husband.. I think she needs all the love you can show her...

JTH65 Wed 04-Sept-24 10:55:07

Thank you for those that have responses. I agree with you all. I think for me it has been such a roller coaster these past 18 months I just couldn’t think straight any more. Getting older, supporting your young family, having an elderly member of 92 live with you and life , it’s just all hit the fan. I am going to be here for my granddaughter, we will continue that for her life, I am struggling to be pleasant with my daughter but that’s for me to get to grips with. She’s a grown up and as has been said, hopefully she will go through the madness of being free of the definite strain she has been living with for 18 months or so and I will calm down with less worry. Thank you all for your responses they have been very helpful and settling for me. Xx

JTH65 Wed 04-Sept-24 10:42:31

You are right, it was as a new friend. It’s just we hear so much about meeting men online. I used to work for the police and have seen the other side of nice. Thank you for your response. Xx

BlueBelle Wed 04-Sept-24 03:54:12

Like the others I can only say, keep your (mental) distance , you sound as if you have been very over involved with your daughter and son in law from the start It s definitely early to introduce the child to another but they have been apart a year ( albeit in the same house) when you say she included her on a date that sounds a bit dramatic I presume you meant they went somewhere and took her with them ie park/shopping /meal out, unless they were all over each other (hopefully not) the grandaughter would just see it as going out with mummy and her friend
You say you’re devastated you loved your son in law like your own but that’s too involved your daughter has MS that’s a life changing illness and him deep depression and you don’t know how difficult life had become in their house
It sounds to me as if your daughter is looking for some happiness after years of seriousness and that can only be good for your grandaughter, after she acclimatises

Have your grandaughter when asked, support your daughter if asked, and get on with your own life, you have a husband do your own things together.

At the moment you are living your daughters life and that is what you are used to, let her live her own life now , with MS she might not be able to always then you will be there

NotSpaghetti Wed 04-Sept-24 00:25:44

keepingquiet is right.
If you maintain a secure and steady presence for your little granddaughter that would be a blessing. Just be as stable as you can. Do normal things with her.
Try to enjoy your time together and in due course your daughter will also regain her balance.

She probably feels suddenly free to do as she wants as her relationship with her husband was obviously hard to manage. He has only just left so now it's like releasing the steam from a pressure cooker. She will go a bit mad for a while maybe but fingers crossed won't make too many mistakes whilst she's like this.

I think she will eventually be level again.
flowers

crazyH Tue 03-Sept-24 22:55:56

JTH65 - it’s hard - I’ve been through divorce myself and so has my daughter. I think her divorce affected me more, for some reason. I knew how much she loved him. She still loves him, I think. She has had one or two ‘dates’ but nothing came off it. She has 2 children, now 22 and 23. She has worked hard to educate them. He has another child by the girl he left my daughter for. My daughter is a strong girl, has a good job and
will survive, just like her mother ……..
So, don’t worry - there’s nothing you can do, but support her. Taking her daughter on ‘dates’ is a bit unusual, but acceptable, I suppose. She knows what’s best. I can understand you are worrying about your granddaughter, but it’s her daughter.
Just hope that it all works out. Good luck !

keepingquiet Tue 03-Sept-24 22:32:54

I feel for you. Family break-up is a terrible thing, especially when there are young children involved. It is one of those things that life throws at us and we feel the rug has been pulled from under our feet.

You know what I am going to say though because I think you already know. There is nothing you can do. These people may be behaving in an immature way but they are adults and are responsible for their own behaviour. Unfortunately they are also jointly responsible for the well-being of a child.

Do what you can for yourself. You will be no good to anyone if you are a gibbering wreck- so self care is the best thing to do to help them.

Then, listen. They don't want your opinion because it throws those bad feelings they already have right back in their faces. Be patient- offer practical help without being taken advantage of, if they ask for it.

Your GD needs your steady presence- she doesn't need another distressed adult around, be a beacon of calm in a world she may find be finding too confusing. Do normal things with her.

I really hope this all works out because you sound like a caring mum and granny. It sounds like you are in for a turbulent time but you can and will weather this storm.

MissAdventure Tue 03-Sept-24 22:28:54

I can't advise you, but I would feel just the same as you regarding your granddaughter being taken on dates.

The thing to remember though, is that hopefully, as far as she is concerned, mummy just has a new friend, which isn't so terrible, is it?

JTH65 Tue 03-Sept-24 22:24:40

I’ve posted this to the wrong forum thread and don’t know how to change, any answers are still gratefully received. I guess it is kind of house and home!

JTH65 Tue 03-Sept-24 22:18:08

I apologise if this is too long and will try to keep it short as possible. Daughter and husband have been together 12 years, were married for 4 of them and have a 3 year old, my granddaughter. GD born October 2020 following a Covid pregnancy, she has always been a problem sleeper. When she was around 18 months my daughter had a lumbar puncture and was diagnosed with MS. After the LP she was very ill and bed bound for a week, I helped as much as poss as SIL was unable to cope, he can literally just do one thing. Following on from this, a few months later SIL had depression and was quite unwell with it. We supported him as much as we were able but he in effect cut himself off from all the family including our son who loved him like a brother and got on really well, we have had over the years many holidays and weekends away all of us. His own mother when I rang her to explain our concerns for him didn’t bother (I was worried he would take his own life he was that bad). My daughter supported him and ran the home etc to try and support him.
A year ago he told her did not want to be with her any more, she has changed and he doesn’t love her. Fast forward to now. He stayed living at the family home only moving out 3 months ago, involving their their 3 year old all the way to the transitioning of daddy not being at home. She was used to him being away a fair bit due to his job. Now. Daughter has been trawling dating apps and has seen someone, fair enough I know they have been separated a year but he only moved out a few weeks ago but I am struggling with this, I think she should get herself straight first and concentrate on her daughter too. My Granddaughter is now very clingy, has been having major tantrums in all places over the most stupid of things at the flick of a switch and my daughter is hell bent on doing what “she” wants to do as she doesn’t want to end up like me! (Married 39 years and not loving it lol) who does? After only 4 dates she included their daughter on one, which I am so upset about, ( I have not spoken to her about this as it’s none of my business) fair enough, see this man but to include her daughter? I feel this is not right at all, it has made me livid and I am having such awful thoughts about my oh so selfish daughter. I am very disappointed in her behaviour. She has also got a new job and seems to be jumping head long into everything like she did as a teenager, not giving a thought for anyone else’s feelings. I know she is an adult. I know it’s none of my business but I am so very very upset that my poor granddaughter has changed due to her mother and father’s separation and they both don’t see how their behaviour has affected her. I really feel they should both get her used to the separation before introducing new people into the relationship. Am I old fashioned ? It’s causing me so much anger towards my daughter that I fight to hide when I see her. Please can you give me some advice on how to come to terms with our family being torn apart? I am absolutely devastated, we loved our SIL like our own, I feel sick. My husband is angry at his behaviour. But most of all I am worrying about our darling GD and her unhappiness. I’ve never had to deal with this type of thing before, do I need to just get on with it it’s none of my business? If so then I shall.