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Franbern Mon 26-Oct-26 15:42:58

So, I have in my flat a wind-up radio, a wind-up lantern. Also have battery operated radio/CD player. Have (and always keep fully charged), a extra charger for my phone. Have plenty of good, easy to use torches and candles

In the past, in my house I also had Gas hobs. Am now totally electric, so am thinking that maybe I should be getting some sort of 'camping type' small stove, just so i could, at least, make myself a hot drink. I have no idea as to how safe these are to use indoors and what fuel it would use. Any advice would be gratefully received.

valdali Mon 26-Oct-26 15:46:30

I used my calor one indoors when we were having the kitchen changed. I used it in a room where we had a gas fire on the principle that if it was well-ventilated enough for a gas fire it would be OK for a gas stove.

CarrotTop Mon 26-Oct-26 15:52:08

The general advice for appliances that use camping gas or propane is to use them outdoors where possible, or in a large well-ventilated area under cover. That's probably because such gases are in liquid form, so if the stove/heater/lamp gets knocked over, there's a change of spillage and a resulting fire.
That's not to say they're terribly dangerous, as long as you use them safely.

BlueBelle Mon 26-Oct-26 15:52:47

I wouldn’t use a camping stove indoors myself but each to his own
I m not doing any of this stuff I really can’t spend my life worrying about ‘maybes’ I ve always got tinned food in the cupboard and if I lose my electric I ve got gas if I lose both I ll eat everything cold, no big problem, I heat with a gas fire and my water is gas
I have a torch and I have a Power bank and that’s as far as I m going

Elegran Mon 26-Oct-26 16:02:09

They use camping gas, either propane or butane or a mixture of both (ready-mixed - it is not advisable to mix-it-yourself).

Propane works better in below-freezing conditions, so is used in the big gas cylinders and takes that you se in rural districts where household cannot get connected to town gas. Propane requires thicker, higher-pressure steel tanks and must be stored outdoors.
Choose Butane if: You are indoors, using a portable stove in warm weather (above 10°C / 50°F), or prioritising a lightweight, compact canister.

You should always have plenty of ventilation, whichever you use. Follow the instructions on it.

There are many small camping stoves on sale on the internet. What you get depends on how much you will be cooking on it at a time, from little folding stoves which hold one saucepan or a kettle up to two-burner ones that hold two pans, or even one meant for a rural kitchen with several burners and a grill and/or oven.

I will look up the size and price of mine (at the smaller end of the market) and post again later.

Casdon Mon 26-Oct-26 16:09:38

Not a helpful reply as you have a gas cooker BlueBelle, so won’t be affected in the same way? Franbern you can get one or two station, low to the worktop camping gas rings that connect to the small gas bottle with a pipe rather than perching on top of it, so are safer to use. I got mine in Aldi, but they sell them in Argos, or camping shops. I kept an old kettle from when we had a caravan, but you might want to think about a kettle rather than a saucepan too. This is an example.
www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwiAufbIiNiXAxWIl4MHHXILBVEYACICCAEQMBoCZWY&co=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgLn2yIjYlwMViJeDBx1yCwVREAQYECABEgIvFPD_BwE&sig=AOD64_000CQa5n2OH-_dpm0avgtmo--dzQ&ctype=46&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjP1O_IiNiXAxWrhv0HHWw0Ea8Q5bgDKAB6BQgOENIB&adurl=

Farmor15 Mon 26-Oct-26 16:17:43

There's a type of single burner gas cooker where the gas cylinder fits in a compartment beside it, so no trailing hose and it's low, so little danger of knocking over. I'll try and find a picture- but widely available.

Farmor15 Mon 26-Oct-26 16:20:55

This type-
www.decathlon.ie/p/single-burner-camping-gas-stove-100-with-piezo-ignition-2-200-w/313081/m8576034

Elegran Mon 26-Oct-26 16:48:01

And this is my folding one burner stove, which does indeed fold into a very small box (provided you took careful note of how it was folded when you took it out of the box. It takes up very little space when in its box, but it holds my ordinary kitchen saucepans, even a big one and it is very stable, though it looks sketchy. Box is 4 ins x 4 ins x 2.5 ins
www.vango.co.uk/folding-gas-stove It didn't cost as much as that when I bought it in 2021!

EkwaNimitee Mon 26-Oct-26 16:54:28

Beware carbon monoxide poisoning if you use a camping stove indoors, I thought that that wasn’t advisable. Perhaps with good ventilation but I wouldn’t. If I get one, I’ll use it just inside my open garage.

Casdon Mon 26-Oct-26 17:02:01

It’s okay for as long as it takes to boil a kettle, as long as you open the window so there is no gas build up. When our electricity has been off, I’ve boiled the kettle full in the morning, and put the surplus water in a flask to use later.

OldFrill Mon 26-Oct-26 17:10:18

EkwaNimitee is correct re carbon dioxide.

None of the aforementioned stoves are recommended for indoor use

petra Mon 26-Oct-26 17:13:39

BlueBelle

I wouldn’t use a camping stove indoors myself but each to his own
I m not doing any of this stuff I really can’t spend my life worrying about ‘maybes’ I ve always got tinned food in the cupboard and if I lose my electric I ve got gas if I lose both I ll eat everything cold, no big problem, I heat with a gas fire and my water is gas
I have a torch and I have a Power bank and that’s as far as I m going

That’s the spirit.
Mr P goes away 4 times a year for is hobby/ pastime.
I don’t / havnt cooked for many years.
Although there is a full size freezer stocked to the brim I survive on sandwiches, crackers, cheese, coleslaw, cold cut meats.
But he always makes me a bread pudding and a feta, basil filo pastry pie and boiled eggs.

Casdon Mon 26-Oct-26 17:18:10

OldFrill

EkwaNimitee is correct re carbon dioxide.

None of the aforementioned stoves are recommended for indoor use

No, but in extremis, I take the precautions in the knowledge that the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning must be mitigated by keeping the window open. It’s either that or don’t have anything hot or have a hot water bottle, when central heating also won’t be working. Personal choice and all that.

OldFrill Mon 26-Oct-26 17:28:58

I think knowledge of the potential risks should help mitigate disasters. That's all.

Sago Mon 26-Oct-26 17:41:32

Yesterday morning we were without power, thankfully I was up very early and had made tea……otherwise I would have been in a filthy mood!

It focused us as to what we would do if we had days without power so we took action!

Gas stove and kettle ordered, we have a carbon monoxide alarm already.
Our garage is integral and has a utility room with so basically it’s a temporary kitchen, it will be safe to use a gas stove.

It’s amazing what M&S sell in a tin, you are not confined to soup and beans!
We also did a scoot round Waitrose, we got Cullen Skink and all kinds of lovely tinned bits!

I always have powdered milk.

We also checked our home insurance covers our freezers and it does, although I am sure there will be a mad loophole somewhere!

We have torches, rechargeable radio,power banks and a comprehensive first aid kit.

We stocked up on wood and coal, we also have lots of wonderful turf.

It’s rare our wine stocks get below 60 bottles and if things got really bad the wood pigeons in our garden are enormous.

The power came back on yesterday afternoon, it then went again for a few minutes today.

It gave us the jolt we needed to get organised.

madeleine45 Mon 26-Oct-26 18:12:08

Having camped all over Europe and sailed etc., am used to sorting myself out. I dont do it all the time, but when the weather is extremely poor , or there is likelihood of power going off or a strike or whatever, I have a very good thermos flask, which really does keep water very hot for many hours. So I would fill that before going to bed, then if there is no electricity in the morning, you can still have a precious coffee in my case,and have enough to either have a wash carefully, or enough to wash up or use to cook something. If not needed then I use it for the washing up, or fill a hot water bottle to keep myself warm if sitting down, and put fresh in last thing at night. I keep several small torches, I by the front door, another on my bedside table and have one in a jacket, so am covered for a light, and also have thinsulate light but warm gloves in all jackets and coats. As I live alone I know where things are, as no one else will have moved them, but if you are a group, then I think it is a good idea to get into the habit of seeing that there is a clear pathway to kitchen, door etc so that no one trips. Once you have organised what you can and made sure you have some warm clothes, (make sure you have some good thermal long johns and tops to keep you going) available dont worry, just carry on! We all lived well enough before central heating or any of the various things that seem so important to us now. I have a mobile phone , like many people and use it, but as a child we first walked to the phone box , then had a phone at home but not mobile. Amazingly we all survived quite well and I am here to tell the tale. There is a line between sensible planning and organising for things and letting them take over your life. The press make much of it just to give them something to go on about. Unless we have serious medical problems we can manage well enough for a day or two and it will boost our confidence in our ability to do so if we have to try out our ideas.

PamelaJ1 Mon 26-Oct-26 18:19:15

Mum was saying that it would be nice to have hot soup if we are incarcerated for a few days without electricity.
Tra la I produced out one burner gas hob that we bought years ago when we had our kitchen re fitted. We’ve got 5 gas canisters so that’s sorted.
DH has a huge yellow radio in the shed. One like the builders use. It can be plugged in or take batteries.
I really am impressed by our emergency readiness without even trying🤣

petra Mon 26-Oct-26 18:26:22

Casdon

OldFrill

EkwaNimitee is correct re carbon dioxide.

None of the aforementioned stoves are recommended for indoor use

No, but in extremis, I take the precautions in the knowledge that the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning must be mitigated by keeping the window open. It’s either that or don’t have anything hot or have a hot water bottle, when central heating also won’t be working. Personal choice and all that.

Many years ago 3 of us ended up in hospital with carbon monoxide poisoning. We were sleeping on a yacht.

I have had a monitor in our bedroom for years. It’s in the bedroom as the chances are you will be asleep if there’s a leek.

The only reason we survived was because a friend realised we weren’t up.