Social Workers are still up to their old tricks.

Moror hotis airis

OK jane - a bit slow of the uptake last night. Sorry!

Frank! A social worker cannot make decisions about NHS continuing care. It is a health service decision based on medical criteria.

What tricks are you saying they are up to? Given the state of local authority care budgets they are only too keen to get them funded by the NHS.

janeA This former one just has!

nightowl is correct there are few qualified SWs in adult services now. Many were made redundant 3 or so years ago and replaced in my area with "care assessors" Most of them are virtually unqualified call centre box tickers!

Frank! just get a life! The comment I really feel like posting would be deleted.

Nelliemoser

In the cases I have witnessed the Social Worker or Care Assessors have said the jointly owned houses would have to be sold and the proceeds divided and have said their cases do not qualify for NHS funding when they did.
If these people had sold their houses and found out later they were given incorrect advice I think the council could face an expensive claim for costs to re buy equivalent houses and these costs would fall on Council Tax Payers.
Most of these people own houses which are £500,000 plus so the costs would be substantial ( stamp duty etc ).

Frank

Timor mortuis conturbit me!
Non habeat Timor socialalis operanti!
[luna]

Flippin 'eck! What next?

Doc Latin...

Sed nos non solet timere doctores.

Sorry to be pedantic but shouldn't that be "Timor mortis conturbat me"?

Sic

Correct!

Err!??? translations anyone? I could have a stab at rough meanings of some of those words.
?Something about being afraid of doctors, and being afraid of death?
The only latin I know are plant names and stuff I have picked up since joining a choral society. The latter being quite full of hellfire and damnation. Flammus acribus etc.

We've been through this before. It's a quote from William Dunbar's poem, Lament for the Makkars. Timor mortis conturbat me, as you say, orca. The fear of death disturbs me.

Well, the latin might be keeping Frank quiet, but I don't know what most of these phrases mean, either. Like nelliemoser I can do plant names, plus a few familiar phrases, but don't get the gist of these posts.

It appears some of you may find it amusing that somebody could sell their house as a result of incorrect advice by a social worker but I do not think you would be pleased if you were the victim.
I know these are cases where the offspring have been left on their own in large houses but at the end of the day there is no law saying a person can not live in a large house on their own.

The amount of expenses to re buy a house could easily run to £40,000 plus taking into account stamp duty, estate agents fees and replacing furniture which is not suitable for the new house etc.
I think the person would have to be compensated but I am sure the council tax payers will not be pleased to see their money being used like this.
Also if compensation for this incorrect advice is having to come out of the Social Service budgets there will be even less to spend on the neglected elderly and children which have been thrown out etc.

Frank

Whatever Gransnetters are laughing at – and some are clearly having a very merry time – it isn't people being forced to sell their houses as a result of incorrect advice by a social worker. Are you like me, HUNTERF, and have no sense of humour?

Anno That is roughly what I thought. I know mortis as death. Timor is like timid. Conturbat perhaps like consternation.
I am sure my translation methods are very hit and miss and could lead to some very classy errors but I can probably get the general gist.
Gardening and choral singing have their uses.!

Yes, agree with your last post Frank. No-one would want that to happen. It's the assumptions that social workers are always 'at it' and that the ones who have made these errors are qualified, bona fide (geddit - latin?) social workers, which is unlikely, as has been explained. We are making light of the assumptions, rather than giving you a good kickin'

You put us all to shame with your doctor latin galen. Forgotten nearly every bit of mine.
Not sure what I got out of 5 years of Latin - i understood a bit more about grammar in all languages - but I would have got that from leaning Spanish or Italian. Some transferable stuff when learning other languages - but I would have got that from leaning Spanish or Italian.

I don't know any Latin. I did it at school for about a year and hed the option of doing Understanding Industrial Society instead and got a grade 1 O level in this subject.
Oddly enough some pupils who were not thought be very bright took up this subject and suddenly started doing well in this subject and caught up fast in other subjects.
Most of them worked at various universities on the business studies side but most of them have now retired like me.

Frank

Latin - easy (for me) because it has rules. Did it for 7 years, including 1st year at Uni. But some of the writers we had to study were awful bores, or at least the lecturers were. Liked the poetry though.

House buyers do not incur estate agent's fees.

House sellers do and they would have incurred estate agents fees if they has taken the incorrect advice and sold their house.

Frank

No I haven't read the whole thread as I got bored half way down the first page so I'm sorry if I'm saying something which ahs already been said. I just don't think that people really do deliberately give the wrong information. It is quite possible that in a very difficult situation the family may not make themselves very clear and the social worker/carer/LA my misunderstand and therefore give an inappropriate answer or be misunderstood. Surely most people actually do mean well?

This happens in every walk of life so why not in social care?