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Social Workers are still up to their old tricks.

(95 Posts)
HUNTERF Sat 16-Feb-13 11:51:41

Just had a conversation with a lady who is a joint owner occupier of a house with her mother and her mother has got to go in to care.
The Social Worker said to her as it is 4 bedroom detached it will have to be sold and the proceeds divided.
She knew this was not correct and has told the Social Worker to take a running jump and demanded NHS funding and threatened legal action if she did not get it.
A day later another review was done and NHS funding has been agreed.

Frank

HUNTERF Tue 19-Feb-13 09:35:13

I have just been asked to go along to another assessment next week. I was at the meeting when the person had his previous assessment.
If it is the same person doing the assessment I am just wondering what her reaction will be?.

Frank

absent Tue 19-Feb-13 07:34:08

HUNTERF Now that I can believe.

Ana Mon 18-Feb-13 21:04:54

Result, Frank! grin

HUNTERF Mon 18-Feb-13 20:49:07

I think 1 of the assessors gave full NHS funding to get rid of me after I was in the meeting the year before.

Frank

Galen Mon 18-Feb-13 20:26:43

Well there is that I suppose!hmm

Ana Mon 18-Feb-13 19:28:08

I think Frank takes himself a bit too rather seriously, but given the choice between him and a certain Scott character, I know which I'd rather we were stuck with! wink

annodomini Mon 18-Feb-13 19:01:44

Ana...you can't mean... no, it can't be true... can it? He's not... real? confused

Ana Mon 18-Feb-13 18:53:15

I think the laughs around the Students' Union Bar would be a bit few and far between by now if that were the case, myself...hmm

Galen Mon 18-Feb-13 18:47:01

I'm a bit thick at timesblush

annodomini Mon 18-Feb-13 18:38:57

Have you only just reached that conclusion, Galen?

Ariadne Mon 18-Feb-13 18:26:56

True.

Galen Mon 18-Feb-13 18:13:54

I actually think that Frank is a figment of his own imagination!
'Proceding from an o'er heated brain'

Ariadne Mon 18-Feb-13 17:56:25

grin

absent Mon 18-Feb-13 17:17:46

If someone owns a part share in a property, it is not relevant whether they have owned it for one day or 100 years. HUNTERF you are raising all sorts of silly issues that are don't count.

I bet everyone loves you in the meetings you attend but I wonder how long they go on. smile

glammanana Mon 18-Feb-13 16:01:17

hunterf just wanting to make sure you didn't get into trouble with your pals frank.

HUNTERF Mon 18-Feb-13 14:39:44

Another thought I have had is I did read some case examples in about 2005 and they were refered to as Mr X or Mrs Y.
I have now thrown these papers away but people ask me to go to meetings with Social Workers as they know I know a lot and I do not charge.
I did check the care fees situation before going to live with Dad although I know most people do not think of this at that stage and I think councils are trying to cut expenditure and rely on the fact that people do not know the law.
Really when I joined Dad I wanted to make sure there was no possibility of being made homeless if he had to go in to care.

Frank

HUNTERF Mon 18-Feb-13 14:18:48

I have had permission to put the info on Gransnet but not to name them.

Frank

glammanana Mon 18-Feb-13 12:53:08

hunterf are you aware that the information you are so willing giving about your friends can be accessed via google on the internet and that they may not be very happy with you discussing their business on a forum,they may be able to recognise themselves from the information you have so willingly given out.

HUNTERF Mon 18-Feb-13 12:33:41

Hi Movedalot

In all the cases I have witnessed the son / daughter has been asked to fill in a form detailing the parents assetts and there is a question on the form asking if the the property is jointly owned and does anybody else occupy it, how long they had been there if it is not the husband / wife and their age.

I could probably see some argument for the council to take some of the house value if say it was the offspring and they had moved in say 2 weeks ago and had not sold their property.

In all the cases the offspring had been widowed and been sharing the home for 2 years plus and at the time they moved in they did not realise the parent would have to go in to care. They also were joint owners of the house through inheritance from the deceased parent.

It could be difficult if the offspring had moved in say 3 months before with the intention of caring for the parent and the parents condition had suddenly got worse.

It is possible in that sort of case they thought they would move in quick to prevent the council taking part of the house or they may have not realised how bad the situation was.

This did not apply to the situations I had witnessed.

Frank

Movedalot Mon 18-Feb-13 12:00:10

No I haven't read the whole thread as I got bored half way down the first page so I'm sorry if I'm saying something which ahs already been said. I just don't think that people really do deliberately give the wrong information. It is quite possible that in a very difficult situation the family may not make themselves very clear and the social worker/carer/LA my misunderstand and therefore give an inappropriate answer or be misunderstood. Surely most people actually do mean well?

This happens in every walk of life so why not in social care?

HUNTERF Mon 18-Feb-13 11:12:12

House sellers do and they would have incurred estate agents fees if they has taken the incorrect advice and sold their house.

Frank

absent Mon 18-Feb-13 11:07:23

House buyers do not incur estate agent's fees.

annodomini Mon 18-Feb-13 11:03:02

Latin - easy (for me) because it has rules. Did it for 7 years, including 1st year at Uni. But some of the writers we had to study were awful bores, or at least the lecturers were. Liked the poetry though.

HUNTERF Mon 18-Feb-13 10:52:43

I don't know any Latin. I did it at school for about a year and hed the option of doing Understanding Industrial Society instead and got a grade 1 O level in this subject.
Oddly enough some pupils who were not thought be very bright took up this subject and suddenly started doing well in this subject and caught up fast in other subjects.
Most of them worked at various universities on the business studies side but most of them have now retired like me.

Frank

JessM Mon 18-Feb-13 10:42:29

You put us all to shame with your doctor latin galen. Forgotten nearly every bit of mine.
Not sure what I got out of 5 years of Latin - i understood a bit more about grammar in all languages - but I would have got that from leaning Spanish or Italian. Some transferable stuff when learning other languages - but I would have got that from leaning Spanish or Italian.