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Off to sit in on another care assessment today.

(86 Posts)
bluebell Thu 20-Jun-13 08:23:34

Just let Frank carry on talking to himself on this thread

HUNTERF Thu 20-Jun-13 08:15:52

whenim64

I was in the 16+ Aftercare service and the older adults service was located about 2 miles away so I never had anything to do with them.

My manager suggested I should train to become a Social Worker but I then mentioned that I was 55 and she said I did not look it.
She did say the council would not discriminate on age but I got the impression that she really thought I was a bit old.
I bought this up when I was having a chat with a Social Worker and he said it really took about 5 years to become a fully trained Social Worker probably he meant including a reasonable amount of on the job training.
My main career was banking but I don't think I knew everything about the department I was in for the longest time even though I worked in it for over 20 years.

Frank

HUNTERF Thu 20-Jun-13 08:01:49

I was told that we would be seeing a Social Worker yesterday but it turned out to be a nurse who I had not seen before.
She asked the son's opinion of his father and also asked mine.
The son sees his father most days but I only see him about every 3 / 4 months.
I was able to tell her the father had got a lot worse during the last 12 months probably more than even the staff at the home had noticed because again they see him most days.
The nurse did say he will be given full NHS funding for another year.
The son did ask her is his father likely to be alive next year and the nurse said there is a very slim chance which is about the same as the opinion as the nurse at the home.
The only trouble we had was with the father.
He kept on saying I had come to take his money.
The only thing I took was a cup of coffee which was provided by the home and I donated £2 to their activities fund.

Frank

whenim64 Wed 19-Jun-13 18:02:58

We've been down this road before, anno. Frank could have been a social worker himself but he didn't fancy the 'five years training' and now sadly he doesn't like social workers. My social work trainng was only two years - presumably the three I missed contained the crucial finance and conveyancing modules! grin

Try to like them, Frank - social workers are lovable people! grin

annodomini Wed 19-Jun-13 17:01:14

Rather than suspect them of a try-on, isn't it more charitable to assume that social work training is lacking in these matters? Even the trainers may not be fully up to speed.

imbroglio Wed 19-Jun-13 16:09:18

Hello, forgive me I mistakenly assumed your care assessment would involve a child. .......very presumptuous of me and I apologise. I read the case you speak of concerning step-mother. I have experience of social workers who apart from their meagre knowledge of the law which they frequently override anyway, they are adept at predicting the future and their predictions are even taken on board by judges.

The case in point was obvious even to a layperson like me.

imbroglio Wed 19-Jun-13 16:07:52

Hello, forgive me I mistakenly assumed your care assessment would involve a child. .......very presumptuous of me and I apologise. I read the case you speak of concerning step-mother. I have experience of social workers who apart from their meagre knowledge of the law which they frequently override anyway, they are adept at predicting the future and their predictions are even taken on board by judges.

The case in point was obvious even to a layperson like me.

HUNTERF Wed 19-Jun-13 11:46:24

imbroglio

I have been to several care assessments now and most of them have been in situations where a property is jointly owned by a parent and offspring and in this situation the offspring is not obliged to sell as they have the right to stay in the property as nobody will buy half a house with somebody in it so the parents share is in effect worthless.
The Social workers try to make the offspring downsize but this is unlawful ( Age Concern Factsheet 38 ).
I have been to 1 case where the step mother was in occupation of the property but the house was owned by the daughter and the step mother only had a right to stay in the property till her death or until she enters a care home.
The Social Worker tried to say that the house had to be sold even though it did not belong to the step mother.
In all but 1 case the patient was entitled to full NHS funding anyway.
I think Social Workers just try it on.

Frank

imbroglio Wed 19-Jun-13 11:25:54

why do you think something as profound as a care assessment should be conducted without argument Frank?

gracesmum Wed 19-Jun-13 10:33:03

You should take this up as a new job, Frank. Hear, hear to the nice day, though, DH doesn't know this but my plans for today include as little as possible.

HUNTERF Wed 19-Jun-13 09:46:02

I am hoping that it will not be too drawn out as it is going to be hot today and I think I am getting well known to my local Social Services / NHS care assessment nurses.
I just think it is a pity the correct assessment is not often done without argument.

Frank