Off to sit in on another care assessment today.

You should take this up as a new job, Frank. Hear, hear to the nice day, though, DH doesn't know this but my plans for today include as little as possible.

why do you think something as profound as a care assessment should be conducted without argument Frank?

imbroglio

I have been to several care assessments now and most of them have been in situations where a property is jointly owned by a parent and offspring and in this situation the offspring is not obliged to sell as they have the right to stay in the property as nobody will buy half a house with somebody in it so the parents share is in effect worthless.
The Social workers try to make the offspring downsize but this is unlawful ( Age Concern Factsheet 38 ).
I have been to 1 case where the step mother was in occupation of the property but the house was owned by the daughter and the step mother only had a right to stay in the property till her death or until she enters a care home.
The Social Worker tried to say that the house had to be sold even though it did not belong to the step mother.
In all but 1 case the patient was entitled to full NHS funding anyway.
I think Social Workers just try it on.

Frank

Hello, forgive me I mistakenly assumed your care assessment would involve a child. .......very presumptuous of me and I apologise. I read the case you speak of concerning step-mother. I have experience of social workers who apart from their meagre knowledge of the law which they frequently override anyway, they are adept at predicting the future and their predictions are even taken on board by judges.

The case in point was obvious even to a layperson like me.

Hello, forgive me I mistakenly assumed your care assessment would involve a child. .......very presumptuous of me and I apologise. I read the case you speak of concerning step-mother. I have experience of social workers who apart from their meagre knowledge of the law which they frequently override anyway, they are adept at predicting the future and their predictions are even taken on board by judges.

The case in point was obvious even to a layperson like me.

Rather than suspect them of a try-on, isn't it more charitable to assume that social work training is lacking in these matters? Even the trainers may not be fully up to speed.

We've been down this road before, anno. Frank could have been a social worker himself but he didn't fancy the 'five years training' and now sadly he doesn't like social workers. My social work trainng was only two years - presumably the three I missed contained the crucial finance and conveyancing modules!

Try to like them, Frank - social workers are lovable people!

I was told that we would be seeing a Social Worker yesterday but it turned out to be a nurse who I had not seen before.
She asked the son's opinion of his father and also asked mine.
The son sees his father most days but I only see him about every 3 / 4 months.
I was able to tell her the father had got a lot worse during the last 12 months probably more than even the staff at the home had noticed because again they see him most days.
The nurse did say he will be given full NHS funding for another year.
The son did ask her is his father likely to be alive next year and the nurse said there is a very slim chance which is about the same as the opinion as the nurse at the home.
The only trouble we had was with the father.
He kept on saying I had come to take his money.
The only thing I took was a cup of coffee which was provided by the home and I donated £2 to their activities fund.

Frank

whenim64

I was in the 16+ Aftercare service and the older adults service was located about 2 miles away so I never had anything to do with them.

My manager suggested I should train to become a Social Worker but I then mentioned that I was 55 and she said I did not look it.
She did say the council would not discriminate on age but I got the impression that she really thought I was a bit old.
I bought this up when I was having a chat with a Social Worker and he said it really took about 5 years to become a fully trained Social Worker probably he meant including a reasonable amount of on the job training.
My main career was banking but I don't think I knew everything about the department I was in for the longest time even though I worked in it for over 20 years.

Frank

Just let Frank carry on talking to himself on this thread

What is refreshing about Frank is that he is always polite. He never takes offence even to the rudest of remarks or to people poking fun at him. I certainly will continue to read his pronouncements and reply. I wouldn't dream of asking others to not post or his threads or interact with him.
I remember a certain girl at school who also used to say to others 'don't talk to so and so'.

Aka - sanctimonious twaddle!!

Bluebell back the f**k off as Prince Harry would say.

Aka I agree with you. Frank is never rude and I find the mockery he is often subjected to rather distasteful and verging on cruel.

- no need for that sort of lang***e. (Expect response "Really?")

Grace look let's escalate this...again. FYI this was the phrase used by Harry when dealing with army bullies. It is succinct and to the point and if you feel offended then take it up with GNHQ.

With this thread, and the other one ongoing, at the age of 75 I never have and never will get used to the "f" word being casually used in conversation either spoken or written.

I have got to get used to a lot of people disagreeing with what I say and do the main one being about 30 people saying I should have not inherited my parental home although I have some doubt if they know the full circumstances behind that.

I never looked in to qualifying as a social worker.
I don't know if the social work qualification is the same for younger people as older adults.

I do know there were several courses within the council aimed towards working with younger people and I went on some of them and there were some fully qualified Social Workers on them.

I don't know if the 5 years my friend mentioned was the amount of time required in his opinion to train to be fully effective or if he did some advanced courses as well as the basic training.

Frank

OK OK whatever.
Like annsixty and maybe others, I was brought up to believe that barrack room language belongs in the barrack room. Feel free to eff and blind as much as you like, but some of us don't appreciate it being fired off in our direction.

gracesmum

My friend who was in the RAF for about 30 years has always said this is not RAF barrack room language.

Frank

Aka - what really, really upsets me is that you bring in Harry to a post Referring to me. You really know how to wound an ardent republican. I find it below the belt, personally hurtful , bordering on the obscene and worthy of reporting to HQ.

Oh so you do have a sense of humour after all Bluebell

And you are the epitome if double standards Aka

Of not if