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Where has Prince Andrew gone?

(90 Posts)
NotTooOld Sun 04-Jan-15 22:47:36

I didn't know where else to put this but have you noticed that our thread on Prince Andrew has been removed by GNHQ 'for legal reasons'?

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 19:50:44

Apparently the BBC has decreed that today/night is twelfth night. My daughter told me. My decs are all down except for a little robin on a phone box that I have just spotted. The tree is undressed but still in the room. Tomorrow.

Tomorrow is actually Epiphany. It is outside the Christmas season. Apparently. hmm [shrug]

rosequartz Mon 05-Jan-15 19:43:20

I have taken mine down too; I thought we were only doomed if we left them up after 12th Night.

The Three Kings are quite decorative in their own right anyway.

Iam64 Mon 05-Jan-15 19:12:04

This thread has cheered me up - special thanks to jingle for her contributions.
I'm not minimising the serious elements by the way

Jing - you've taken your decs down before 12th night, I did mine today as well. Are we doomed? The 3 kings arrive tomorrow I'm led to believe wink

Lona Mon 05-Jan-15 18:40:28

Those cases were being investigated and tried in the UK, not the US, and that makes the difference I think.
Of course Her Madge may be threatening GN with the Tower!

Eloethan Mon 05-Jan-15 16:58:17

Presumably Mumsnet and Gransnet have a lawyer. Did the lawyer advise GN/MN to delete the thread or were you or your lawyer advised to do so by another source?

In recent cases where various celebrities were in the process of being investigated or tried, Gransnetters have made very many speculative comments but I don't recall any threads relating to these cases being deleted in their entirety for "legal reasons".

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 16:49:10

Note the "also". shock

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 16:19:48

ok thanks.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 05-Jan-15 16:08:30

soontobe

So if I say on here that someone I know is a thief when they are not, and then they decide to sue me, where does that leave gransnet?
{I havent done this by the way!]
They have to go back and remove the posts?

The law changed a while back so that we - as the publishers - would also be liable. I don't have the ins and outs to hand but that's the gist

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 16:03:33

Probably too much like hard work for Tech, Elegran...grin

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 16:01:46

Well, there aren't that many reasons for a thread being deleted, are there?

Elegran Mon 05-Jan-15 16:01:04

Could GNHQ delete all the posts in a thread, separately, except for one explaining why they have all gone? Then they could delete the last one, and the thread, later? They would have to lock the thread somehow to stop anyone posting again, I suppose.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 15:59:19

Only when it's been a big squabble. grin

Not just about randy-Andy.

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 15:57:34

A lot of us do care that threads are sometimes deleted and we don't know why if we haven't been around at the time GNHQ tells us it's about to be!

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 15:55:30

You know we don't really care.

Do we?!!!! shock

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 15:54:51

Where did that comma come from? confused

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 15:54:44

Of flip me! Leave off! hmm

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 15:54:24

I'm trying to be helpful, here jingl...hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 15:53:17

I'm taking my decs down. Really slowly. hmm

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 15:52:41

Cari, it may not be possible to leave the deleted thread with the reason for its removal up for 24 hours, but surely GNHQ could post the reason for its deletion somewhere?

There could be a designated 'Deleted Threads' thread...

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 15:52:39

I think we have done this to death now haven't we? All is clear. All is well.

(Scatters fairy dust to be sure)

smile

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 15:47:10

So if I say on here that someone I know is a thief when they are not, and then they decide to sue me, where does that leave gransnet?
{I havent done this by the way!]
They have to go back and remove the posts?

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 05-Jan-15 15:40:48

V good idea bags - and we have asked but so far it's not possible sad

As you say - we are all grown ups and we're as much for free speech as anyone else - hence the fact there are very few rules on the forum. But libel (of anyone - not just the rich and famous) is libel and that's very definitely something to steer clear of

thatbags Mon 05-Jan-15 15:13:06

Just for the record, cari, I saw the post on the thread saying why it would be deleted and that seemed fine to me. I had noticed some 'assumptions' too. Nobody blethers on about feee speech as much as I do on here but I understood the need to delete that thread because, as people never fail to remind me, free speech doesn't mean you can say just anything on any subject. There are limits and innocent until proven guilty is one of the limits, or lines, that shouldn't be crossed. It had been on that thread, if only by implication.

A thought for future reference: would it be possible for Tech to arrange it so that when a thread gets deleted the reason stays visible for twenty-four hours? People might not moan so much then hmm

granjura Mon 05-Jan-15 14:52:47

Blimey- I can't believe it!

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 05-Jan-15 14:26:49

Honestly - we didn't grin

But (it now being Monday when people are actually around) we have had a chance to clarify further and hopefully that will make life better for everyone. Now where's my wine