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gifting cash to family

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didleyDi Fri 17-Feb-17 09:29:25

Scottish law. Finding some articles on this bit confusing.
I want to gift 5K each to my four children. I am aged 91 and havn't gifted apart from birthdays/xmas. On my death I estimate, barring unexpected huge expense, my total estate will be around 270 to 300k but some family are of the opinion it might be required to give back to my estate if deceased before 7 yrs.
Advice appreciated

BBbevan Sat 18-Feb-17 06:36:27

We give a fixed sum every month to cover GDs dance classes, music lessons etc. How is this perceived ?

mumofmadboys Sat 18-Feb-17 07:34:12

If your estate is under the inheritance tax limit of 325K if you are single and 650 K if you are married ( even if spouse had already died) when you die gifts over the last seven years have to be declared but if the total is less than amounts given above no IHT is payable.

Granny23 Sat 18-Feb-17 12:12:29

That is reassuring MOMB sometimes not having very much gives you fewer money worries than those who have a lot.

Jalima Sat 18-Feb-17 12:25:48

The money has probably been taxed once already though Norah

Norah Sat 18-Feb-17 16:02:11

Jalima "The money has probably been taxed once already though Norah"

Yes there have probably been taxes paid, already. I'm sure.

These taxes are on excess, as has been pointed out. I see it as leveling the playing field, redistribution.

Norah Sat 18-Feb-17 16:09:02

BBbevan "We give a fixed sum every month to cover GDs dance classes, music lessons etc. How is this perceived?"

I do the same, but I do use cash that doesn't show in my ACs accounts or mine. No real reason, but nobody need explain mum's sums in their accounts.

I think small sums are perceived as smidgen gifts, like Birthdays.

Jalima Sat 18-Feb-17 16:13:15

That sums it up nicely Mumofmadboys

didleyDi Sat 18-Feb-17 17:23:41

Thanks everyone for input. Very informative.

Iam64 Sat 18-Feb-17 18:09:52

Thanks madmumofboys. We have been discussing that issue recently. We've decided to give our young adult grandchildren gifts such as driving lessons so they get a bit of help now, rather than in the (we hope) more distant future.

Rigby46 Sat 18-Feb-17 18:31:23

Now for example,say I'm widowed and merrily giveaway £1k here, £2k there £4K here and so on. Then after about four years I die. How would person doing probate know what on earth I'd given away as gifts? It's mad I tell you mad grin

annsixty Sat 18-Feb-17 18:54:33

As my H and I live a very simple and not "going out" type of life we have income to spare,so we choose to help our family. We do not go without anything and why should we not be able to share without it being included in our estate. Factually we won't leave enough to be penalized. Would it be included in the event of my H needed care which is a probability.

mumofmadboys Sat 18-Feb-17 18:54:53

You should keep a list of gifts and dates given. Any that are over seven years old when you die are discounted. This is only of significance if you leave over the IHT limit. This enables your executor to do the job accurately and honestly

Elegran Sat 18-Feb-17 18:55:26

You would have stated the gifts on your tax return. There is a question asking whether you have given any gifts.

Norah Sat 18-Feb-17 18:57:57

Rigby46 "Now for example,say I'm widowed and merrily giveaway £1k here, £2k there £4K here and so on. Then after about four years I die. How would person doing probate know what on earth I'd given away as gifts?"

Exactly, anyone can dump cash here and there. And I'd say most do.

Ana Sat 18-Feb-17 19:01:59

Elegran, not everyone has to complete a tax return! (I don't - why would I, the taxman knows all about my income already, I don't have investments etc.)

Elegran Sat 18-Feb-17 19:11:35

If you don't have to complete a tax return, you are unlikely to come above the level where you would be paying inheritance tax on the gifts.

Ana Sat 18-Feb-17 19:15:48

Exactly. Too poor...sad grin

Rigby46 Sat 18-Feb-17 19:30:32

Elegran do you really have to put that on your tax return? blush

annsixty Sat 18-Feb-17 20:11:03

My H has a simple financial situation, always employed,never had to fill in a tax return. Retired on a pension for over twenty years, no complex affairs and now a letter yesterday saying he owes £660 in unpaid taxes. Sorry to digress but we are lost. It would seem to be HMRC who had made a booboo as we have not submitted any figures. Therefore inheritance tax can be just as easily be misinterpreted.

Norah Sat 18-Feb-17 20:22:12

annsixty "Therefore inheritance tax can be just as easily be misinterpreted."

Join the "spend it while you're still able to have fun" group.

I can't think of one reason to scrimp and save any longer.

Jalima Sat 18-Feb-17 20:25:41

Exactly, anyone can dump cash here and there. And I'd say most do.

Really?
I am hanging on to the little I have apart from the odd gift here and there
shock

annsixty Sat 18-Feb-17 20:49:45

I now intend to spend as much in cash as I need. Otherwise what we have saved for our retirement could go in care fees. I have no problem in my H's entire pension going in fees (not true!!) but if I can spend it on what I can I will.

Araabra Sun 19-Feb-17 20:27:06

annsixty I also spend what I wish. DH earned it and we are enjoying spending on AC and GC!