Loosing winter fuel allowance

We're the same Flora. Since we're taxed separately I think he'll lose his and I'll still get mine. Fair Do's. I think I could probably get by without mine since I'm a kept woman.

Same here, I think they do have to go on what each person in the household has,
But I guess we will find out soon.

It may just be for anyone who is living on benefits only ( fair enough.)

The same for us too but I think it's a really good idea.

I agree roses, just for people on benefits. We have to do our bit too.

I'm confused too about the care costs £20,000 plus (can't remember exactly how much) savings allowance being raised to £100,000 - but including the value of the house? That would mean no cash savings allowance wouldn't it?

Surely it will become like most other benefits, and based on 'household'income, won't it?

I also agree with roses it seems fairer, but how many pensioners are getting a pension of £43,000- I did not earn that when I was working, admittedly I retired from full time work in 2002 and times have changed.

My mother used to give hers to Dogs Trust, a friend of ours puts his towards their annual trip to Australia.......

Well a twist in the tale the Scottish Goverment are to keep the winter fuel payments as they are . They are not stopping anyone from getting it . I would bar anyone not living in the UK and would not have grudged giving ours up if they gave more to the most in need.

Means testing is an expensive process. Let us hope it does not cost more than the allowance.

I doubt it Luckygirl otherwise they wouldn't bother doing it.

This has always been the reason that child benefit has been universal - the means testing costs more than the benefit.

My feeling is that it will be available to households on pension credit, and not to others. Don't quote me, though.

Child benefit is means tested you don't get it if one partner earns more than £50,000.

I agree it will probably be linked to pensions credit or maybe given to non tax payers? (Last year mine went to the East Anglian Air Ambulance and some to World Horse Welfare and the Cinnamon Trust!)

I agree with Margrete too - most likely to be tied in with pension credit. I certainly don't imagine for one moment that one of a couple will receive it while their partner, with a higher income, doesn't. Benefits just don't work like it, though you could be forgiven for thinking otherwise given how the media love to misleadingly compare benefits received by an entire household with the average earnings of one individual.

That said, this is not necessarily seen as a cost-cutting exercise. (The bedroom tax never saved any money ((housing benefit has risen, despite there being fewer people claiming it)), but was a hugely popular policy with a large section of the electorate, so a great success as far as the Government is concerned). Perhaps it is more of a bid to appease / appeal to younger voters who are increasingly being led to believe that the retired are all living the life of Riley. The fact that the better-off retirees are still contributing as tax-payers is rarely mentioned, and probably something that many of those younger voters are unaware of.

Admittedly, it does seem unlikely that the Government would risk alienating the 'grey' vote in this way, but not impossible.

I agree we don't all need it, but I know several people who give theirs to charities, so they will be losing out.

It has split the Tory party

How awful...

This has bugged me, Corbyn has attacked the Tories for cutting winter fuel allowance, he wants it to remain as it is. So those he condemns for their wealth he supports them having the allowance

Means testing is difficult and a waste of resources to me.

Means testing could mean that the large number of pensioners who currently would be entitled to Pension Credit but don't claim it might start claiming it. I bet that would cancel out the saving from withdrawing the WAP, many times over!

Corbyn has promised the moon on a stick to everyone.....you mention it and you got it! All will magically be paid for.Well, if Labour don't get into power with a manifesto that splashes the cash on all and sundry, when the Conservative manifesto clearly doesn't do that, then you will have the measure of how truly unpopular he is.