Annual Winter Fuel Payment 2022

DaisyAnne
The money was given for energy costs and that's where it should go. And just because you are capable of manging your money does not mean everyone is. Remember the feckless husband who took the housekeeping money out of the tin on the mantlepiece and spent it down the pub or on gambling? Do you think those people no longer exist?

Chestnut

DaisyAnne

annsixty

Our £400 from EDF isn’t going from our monthly DD .
I received £67 last week directly into my bank.
Two payments of £67 and four of £66.

It varies from company to company annsixty.

I had £67 paid direct into my Octopus account who took £67 less from my direct debit. Much better and simpler that way, and no chance of spending it elsewhere.

I can't agree that only a few people will spend their payment elsewhere if it goes straight into the bank account. If people are low on funds for food or other essentials they will spend it on those, and it won't be there for the energy bills.

I changed to Octopus before all this started, thanks to the good people of Gransnet. I will also sing its praises as they have done the same with me. On the basis that this government is more likely to take than to give (according to Mr Hunt), I am putting half the £67 into my recently set up "cost of living account". That is where much of what I have been "given" is going.

People are at liberty to spend their cost of living payments wherever the cost of living is hitting them or even to make a capital purchase to bring it down, or do something that keeps them sane as far as I am concerned.

I do not expect "the government to "give" me something and then tell me I do not know how to make the best use of it. Surely the days of punching holes in the back of children's "Welfare" shoes, so they couldn't sell them, have long gone. Or perhaps not in some people's heads.

annsixty

Our £400 from EDF isn’t going from our monthly DD .
I received £67 last week directly into my bank.
Two payments of £67 and four of £66.

Although this £66/£67 is being paid to energy suppliers, some of them (eg: EDF), are then sending it back out back to the customers bank account.

Why would it be better for this other money be better being paid to Electricity suppliers? Are we now not able to manage our own accounts? I am more than happy that my bank account will receive this money and I can use it as necessary. Otherwise it will be that energy supply companies would have millions of pounds of our monies, in their banks - think they are getting more than enough without this extra.

We had £66 paid into our bank account from Ovo, and also £66 taken of our bill! Am waiting to see if they realise their error as don’t really relish hanging on the phone for however long.

Isn’t is just for people on some sort of benefits? I must say I think it’s unfair, if you are not claiming benefits you don’t have advantage of all the help available if you are £1 just above the qualifying rate . So in effect you are far worse off. It all needs a shake up.

£200 is the winter heating allowance - they are adding the £400 cost of living payment to this. This is meant to help with the other cost of living rises particularly food. This is why its not going to the energy provoders

DaisyAnne

annsixty

Our £400 from EDF isn’t going from our monthly DD .
I received £67 last week directly into my bank.
Two payments of £67 and four of £66.

It varies from company to company annsixty.

I had £67 paid direct into my Octopus account who took £67 less from my direct debit. Much better and simpler that way, and no chance of spending it elsewhere.

I can't agree that only a few people will spend their payment elsewhere if it goes straight into the bank account. If people are low on funds for food or other essentials they will spend it on those, and it won't be there for the energy bills.

M0nica

grannyrebel17 Why? Are you worried we might all go out and spend it on cigarettes, whisky and wild wild women/men and not pay our bills?

I think by the time we reach retirement age we should be given our allowances and then left to manage our finances as all but a small minority are more than capable of doing.

I've watched too much Parliament today and was about to say "Hear, hear", but you get the gist.

Generally, when people say things like grannyrebel said generally don't think "we" will get it wrong. They think "they" will.

grannyrebel17 Why? Are you worried we might all go out and spend it on cigarettes, whisky and wild wild women/men and not pay our bills?

I think by the time we reach retirement age we should be given our allowances and then left to manage our finances as all but a small minority are more than capable of doing.

sodapop

Auntieflo

But why should you get it if you live in France?

Why should we not ? We continue to pay UK taxes and worked all our lives in UK.
It's strange isn't it how the money is important in UK but not so here notgran
In fact the temperatures here are very similar to UK although hotter in the summer and colder in the winter.
I understand its a penalty we pay for living here and I'm resigned to that. Comments about cake are uncalled for.

The French government capped the increases at 4% so you presumably don't need it

Out of interest sodapop if you are French and live in the UK would you get the cheque énergie from the French government?

Auntieflo

But why should you get it if you live in France?

Why should we not ? We continue to pay UK taxes and worked all our lives in UK.
It's strange isn't it how the money is important in UK but not so here notgran
In fact the temperatures here are very similar to UK although hotter in the summer and colder in the winter.
I understand its a penalty we pay for living here and I'm resigned to that. Comments about cake are uncalled for.

Kim19

Does this come direct from the government or via our individual heating companies, please? Also, is there any indication of when it will happen?

The same as always Kim. It should go straight into your bank account. The one the companies are managing is a one-off Energy Bills Support Scheme. It is £400 paid over six months from October. Each company has chosen their own way of dealing with this.

annsixty

Our £400 from EDF isn’t going from our monthly DD .
I received £67 last week directly into my bank.
Two payments of £67 and four of £66.

It varies from company to company annsixty.

grannyrebel7

It would be better paid directly to your energy company like the new £400 payment.

They never have and I can see good reasons why they don't.

For those on very low incomes and therefore receiving certain benefits including Pension Credit the Warm Home Discount has always been paid into their energy account.

This is a one-off discount of £150 in 2022/23 paid between October 2022 and March 2023.

Auntieflo

But why should you get it if you live in France?

Good question and isn't life better over there and you are entitled to better health care etc. A few £100 can't make that much difference surely what with the better standard of living. If it does then perhaps you need to return, you can't have your cake and eat it, you know.

But why should you get it if you live in France?

sodapop

Big fat zero if you live in France.

That is, according to DWP because your average temperatures are not low enough to qualify it seems
You cannot get the payment if you live in Cyprus, France, Gibraltar, Greece, Malta, Portugal or Spain because the average winter temperature is higher than the warmest region of the UK

Our £400 from EDF isn’t going from our monthly DD .
I received £67 last week directly into my bank.
Two payments of £67 and four of £66.

It would be better paid directly to your energy company like the new £400 payment.

Sorry Prentice. I didn't spot your answer.

Kim19

Does this come direct from the government or via our individual heating companies, please? Also, is there any indication of when it will happen?

Direct to your bank account Kim. It is usually between November and December and seems to go out in alphabetical order in my experience.

Thank you, Prentice. Appreciated.

Big fat zero if you live in France.

It comes from the government Kim19 and usually in November or December.