So Very Many Years For WASPI Women

Merhaba

Hi. They did me out of 3 yrs to get my government pension. So I was 63 yrs old when I got mine.
I get paid the old style pension like them that retired at 60. I wish I did get the new pension of 815 a month. I get 635 a month. Fully qualified stamps.

Exactly the same for me…🤨

EEJit

My Beloved is a WASPI, when I think of much is spent every day on those bloody migrants it makes my blood boil.

Thay can't find money for our people but they can for foreigners.

The money spent on those "bloody migrants" comes out of the foreign aid budget.

Which would not be spent on pensions regardless.

I know many of you don’t agree with me re the fact that I don’t think we will receive compensation and I’m not sure that we should actually.
How was it right that women could retire at 60 and men have always had to work till 65 even though their life expectancy is less? Those that have said they have struggled to work past 60 due to medical issues hasn’t this always been the case for men?
The trouble is there just isn’t an easy and fair for all solution, ladies currently in their nineties have been receiving a pension for 30+ years, far more than was expected years ago, things did need to change somehow to reflect these changes.

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I'm glad married women's stamp has been mentioned. I paid this stamp in the 1960s and was shocked when I got to retirement age and discovered how drastically this had affected the value of my pension. I have never had anything approaching a proper pension. I 'm fortunate in that DH has a full state pension and an occupational pension. But I have always felt like the "little woman" in terms of finances and for years when filling in forms described my occupation as "housewife". The birth of "Women's Lib" was a big step forward and I'm cheered now to read about the WASPI women. I wish you luck in your compaign.

….47 years of full stamp payments …just to get shafted at the end of it all🤷🏻‍♀️

Spot on Margs….and I’m one of the WASPI’s🤬

I think this government are making people wait, with the intention of us all "popping our clogs" so they won't have to pay us anything. It's disgusting how people are treated in our country, we have done our best for years to keep the country going, amid all the "toing and froing" amongst politicians, who really don't give a jot about any of us, unless they want us to vote for them at election time. I include local councillors in that bracket too, they want our council tax (on time, or woe betide you!) and what do they do for the local people, ours do nothing, but again when they want your vote they are out there wanting to speak to you and make things work. Sorry for the rant, but it really makes me cross!!

Margs

Well, when I look at the expensive debacle called HS2......I wonder if compensation really is THAT unfeasible.

Exactly. The Government always has Schödinger’s money. Whether there is money ‘in the box’ very much depends upon whether on not they want to spend. Their motivation is heavily influenced by the likelihood of lucrative contracts in it for their own mates and associates (‘on a you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours’ principle). Clear examples of when the box contains lots of money are PPE contracts during the worse days of Covid and HS2. Notice it wasn’t trashed until those contracts had given £ millions to ‘their associates’. There is never money (“no magic money tree”) for women’s pensions, social care, libraries, youth clubs etc!

LovelyLady

What is a Waspi? Is this a British expression? I’ve never heard of this.

The term is often misused. There is a pressure group called Women Against Spate Pension Inequality, and many people use the acronym to describe any woman born in the 1950s who lost out on the pension she was led to expect she would get at 60.

There are other pressure groups, and there are women who do not support the idea of others being compensated, but for some reason many people call all women of the relevant age WASPIs.

What is a Waspi? Is this a British expression? I’ve never heard of this.

Hi. They did me out of 3 yrs to get my government pension. So I was 63 yrs old when I got mine.
I get paid the old style pension like them that retired at 60. I wish I did get the new pension of 815 a month. I get 635 a month. Fully qualified stamps.

Oops posted too early!
Anyway, I’m not holding my breath for compensation. The government doesn’t care about ‘old women’. They wouldn’t have added 6 years onto the pension age of 3.8 million men!

I’m a WASPI and had to work an extra 6 years, with a serious health condition, in a highly pressured, stressful job. Naturally this contributed to my ill health. Having now retired, it’s taken me over a year to

35 years NI contributions did not entitle anyone to a full state pension on the old scheme

So many misconceptions, so much resentment whenever comparisons are made that engaging in any thread on the subject is futile.

The government was emboldened after the court case was lost so I doubt any compensation will be forthcoming. The whole phasing in of retirement age was grossly unfair. A co-worker 3 months older than me was able to retire 15 months before me

Probably slightly less callistemon but still a very significant amount was paid to early retirees over those 6 years which WASPI women will have to wait almost 15 years to recoup (if they live that long)
In addition to WASPI women receiving no state pension for 6 years, they also had to continue paying national insurance contributions. I personally paid full contributions for 50 years, not the 35 years that younger retirees paid.

Yes I know women paid SERPS too Maggie, but I was specifically referring to women who paid the Married Woman’s Stamp, who can claim on their deceased husband’s stamps, like my mother did after my father died.

Callistemon21

^Old pension (using current rates)^

But we didn't receive the current rates!!
Slightly less?
Much less.

I don't mind all pensions being the same but compensate the WASPI women for, in my case,the six years I lost.

Old pension (using current rates)

But we didn't receive the current rates!!
Slightly less?
Much less.

Women paid SERPS as well though, maddyone. I did when I wasn’t contracted out.

£48,000 over six years??
Oh, pull the other one.

Old pension (using current rates) = £156.20 × 52 = £8122.40 × 6 years = £48,734.40
Obviously, this is only an approximate amount because the £156.20 is the current amount and was slightly less over previous years.

I started to receive my state pension this year and have never received anything to explain how much I am receiving and how it was calculated despite having written twice to ask for this information. I get a lot less than the standard rate despite having 35 years of contributions.

I’d keep on asking, Jeannieallergy. You need to know that it’s been calculated correctly.

With regard to older women who are receiving much more pension, or indeed fizzywizzy’s husband, I may be wrong, but I think it may be because the husbands paid SERPS, which would give additional benefits on top of the normal pension, but is no longer applicable to those on the new state pension. Older women whose husbands have died, but who only paid the Married Woman’s Stamp, can claim a pension on their deceased husband’s stamps. My mother was able to do this after my father died. I don’t think this is the case now with the new pension, but I’m not sure.

I got my state pension this year, I worked until I was 66. It is estimated that from 60 to 66 I lost about 45k in pension. I want to be recompensed as a WASPI woman.