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WASPIs' Ten Thousand payment

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Bea65 Fri 16-Feb-24 19:29:28

Having read about this proposal over last few days, could someone advise if this proposal is really going forward for those of us born between 1950 and 1960 as a payment for not being informed about the rise in state pension age from 60 to 65 upwards for women? There seems to be conflicting news reports and its quite distressing/disturbing...

Bea65 Fri 22-Mar-24 10:42:11

I did a paper round at 13 and at 15 worked in the shop until I got a Saturday job in the local Griddle Inn.. I didn’t pay any tax or contributions until my first full time job after my year in college- also worked 2evenings a week in night club as receptionist and was heavily taxed - classed as a second income -remember this well but I wanted a car hey ho could never escape the ‘tax man’ 😳

maddyone Fri 22-Mar-24 10:16:28

growstuff

There was another claim by somebody, born in the fifties, who said she started work at 14. The school leaving age was raised to 15 in 1947, so I took that claim with a large pinch of salt too.

Maybe she did a paper round or Saturday job. I did a paper round at 14 but have no memories of paying NI or Graduated pension. I also worked in a cafe on Saturday afternoons at 14 (only allowed to work half a day at 14, my friend did the other half) and cannot remain if I did or did not pay NI or GP, nor do I remember whether I paid either of those when I worked from 15 to 18 on Saturdays in a wallpaper shop, but I do remember paying GP, but no recollection of NI when I worked all summer in a factory at ages 16 and later at either 19 or 20 (can’t remember exact age.) I did a few jobs during weekends and school/college holidays. I also did Christmas post one year, no idea what/if I paid anything.

halfpint1 Fri 22-Mar-24 10:08:16

Me too, worked in an indoor market for an old couple and helped clear their stall every night after school. Worked Saturday and school holidays for them.

LizzieDrip Fri 22-Mar-24 10:06:19

I’ll be very surprised if we get any compensation, regardless of who is in government. I’m not sure the WASPI issue will be a vote-winner - too many people are against it e.g. younger people who are struggling and see their state pension as a distant dream; older women who got their pension at 60 and think we ‘should have known about the age increase’. It’s potentially a political hot potato!

Dempie55 Fri 22-Mar-24 09:34:25

growstuff

There was another claim by somebody, born in the fifties, who said she started work at 14. The school leaving age was raised to 15 in 1947, so I took that claim with a large pinch of salt too.

I had a Saturday job when I was 14, working in a bakery and did extra shifts in the school holidays.

Casdon Fri 22-Mar-24 09:22:18

Primrose53

Labour’s Emily Thornberry was on TV this morning and was unable to answer questions as to whether Labour would pay out to the WASPI women if they come to power (or WHEN as Thornberry says). She was doing her very best to avoid answering. 🤣🤣

Did that surprise you Primrose53, the Tories are doing exactly the same - they only found out the outcome yesterday after all so won’t have factored any potential payouts into their plans yet?

Primrose53 Fri 22-Mar-24 09:19:37

Labour’s Emily Thornberry was on TV this morning and was unable to answer questions as to whether Labour would pay out to the WASPI women if they come to power (or WHEN as Thornberry says). She was doing her very best to avoid answering. 🤣🤣

growstuff Fri 22-Mar-24 08:46:17

There was another claim by somebody, born in the fifties, who said she started work at 14. The school leaving age was raised to 15 in 1947, so I took that claim with a large pinch of salt too.

growstuff Fri 22-Mar-24 08:44:33

Callistemon21

growstuff

Abuelamia

Thank you Blossoming for the link. However, I find it rather difficult to understand how Ms W in the article claims the change in state pension age has lost £442,000 .

"Mrs W" claimed that she would have been paid £442,000 if she'd stayed in her job after 60. I really can't understand why somebody would resign without checking pension entitlement, so I'm afraid I take that with a pinch of salt.

Surely someone earning that kind of salary would be astute enough to keep up with developments, announcements on the news and in the press as well as forward plan and check out what her pensions would be before resigning from her job?
It sounds like a slight exaggeration to me.

It was announced on TV by The Chancellor in 1993 and would have been reported in the press.

One would have thought so. Somehow it doesn't sound right.

Redhead56 Fri 22-Mar-24 08:42:10

I had previously read (I can’t remember) when or where women didn’t get state pension until 65. I received a letter which I still have just before my 65th birthday I would not receive my pension until I was 66. I received a letter just a month ago regarding a small increase in my pension.

Bonnybanko Fri 22-Mar-24 08:04:38

I saw this on the news yesterday and thought, I wonder if those women born after 1950 will actually receive any compensation from the DWP. I do hope they do it’s a bloody shame how they had their pension age increased, without any forewarning

I was one of the lucky ones born in 1949.when I received my pension aged 60

Bea65 Fri 22-Mar-24 07:24:34

Hmm maybe there is an extra 4 and 0 typed in - £42,000??
Whether we get compensation or not, WASPI are getting attention across the media still this morning

Callistemon21 Thu 21-Mar-24 23:05:56

growstuff

Abuelamia

Thank you Blossoming for the link. However, I find it rather difficult to understand how Ms W in the article claims the change in state pension age has lost £442,000 .

"Mrs W" claimed that she would have been paid £442,000 if she'd stayed in her job after 60. I really can't understand why somebody would resign without checking pension entitlement, so I'm afraid I take that with a pinch of salt.

Surely someone earning that kind of salary would be astute enough to keep up with developments, announcements on the news and in the press as well as forward plan and check out what her pensions would be before resigning from her job?
It sounds like a slight exaggeration to me.

It was announced on TV by The Chancellor in 1993 and would have been reported in the press.

growstuff Thu 21-Mar-24 18:59:18

Abuelamia

Thank you Blossoming for the link. However, I find it rather difficult to understand how Ms W in the article claims the change in state pension age has lost £442,000 .

"Mrs W" claimed that she would have been paid £442,000 if she'd stayed in her job after 60. I really can't understand why somebody would resign without checking pension entitlement, so I'm afraid I take that with a pinch of salt.

growstuff Thu 21-Mar-24 18:56:03

Callistemon21

growstuff

Bea65

Callistemon21 I'd forgotten about that when I left BHam Area Health Authority lates 70s/early 80s, my contributions were returned to me...and then when I got another job, you had to be with the company 2 yrs before you were allowed to join the pension scheme and yes, different rules for women...

Surely those were the contributions you'd made to the health authority pension. Your NICs (even if you'd been paying) "full stamp" wouldn't have been returned and wouldn't have affected your state pension. What it does mean is that you will have been recorded as "contracted out" and your state pension will be reduced slightly.

What it does mean is that you will have been recorded as "contracted out" and your state pension will be reduced slightly.

Oh, I never thought of that. Another blow for women.

They were Local Government, Civil Service or Local Health Authority pension contributions.

Not just women. I worked for an employer for about a year and was offered my pension contributions back when I left. I was in my early 20s and always short of money, so of course I took the money. I believe the law changed after that and people couldn't take back their pension contributions.

Abuelamia Thu 21-Mar-24 18:48:24

Thank you Blossoming for the link. However, I find it rather difficult to understand how Ms W in the article claims the change in state pension age has lost £442,000 .

Blossoming Thu 21-Mar-24 17:42:11

In today’s Guardian

www.theguardian.com/money/2024/mar/21/thousands-of-uk-women-owed-pension-payout-after-ombudsmans-waspi-ruling

maddyone Thu 21-Mar-24 17:31:05

My teacher pension contributions were returned to me when I left to have my first baby. If I’d been savvy enough to realise how much that would eventually reduce my professional pension I wouldn’t have taken them. I think it was just a way to reduce their liabilities later on, but would blame the women for accepting the return.
Of course that has nothing to do with state pensions.

I’m not surprised that the DWP has said it has no intention of complying and I won’t hold my breath about a future government complying either.

Cossy Thu 21-Mar-24 17:24:42

Callistemon21

I think they should become Government advisers.
Nice cushy office job, telling them where they're going wrong and what they ought to be doing.

Love this idea! 😂😂😂😂

Callistemon21 Thu 21-Mar-24 14:45:44

growstuff

Bea65

Callistemon21 I'd forgotten about that when I left BHam Area Health Authority lates 70s/early 80s, my contributions were returned to me...and then when I got another job, you had to be with the company 2 yrs before you were allowed to join the pension scheme and yes, different rules for women...

Surely those were the contributions you'd made to the health authority pension. Your NICs (even if you'd been paying) "full stamp" wouldn't have been returned and wouldn't have affected your state pension. What it does mean is that you will have been recorded as "contracted out" and your state pension will be reduced slightly.

What it does mean is that you will have been recorded as "contracted out" and your state pension will be reduced slightly.

Oh, I never thought of that. Another blow for women.

They were Local Government, Civil Service or Local Health Authority pension contributions.

sharon103 Thu 21-Mar-24 14:25:13

Oldbat1

I religiously keep all paperwork - i did not receive notification regarding having to wait longer for my pension.

So do I Oldbat1.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I received no letter.

growstuff Thu 21-Mar-24 13:52:43

Bea65

Callistemon21 I'd forgotten about that when I left BHam Area Health Authority lates 70s/early 80s, my contributions were returned to me...and then when I got another job, you had to be with the company 2 yrs before you were allowed to join the pension scheme and yes, different rules for women...

Surely those were the contributions you'd made to the health authority pension. Your NICs (even if you'd been paying) "full stamp" wouldn't have been returned and wouldn't have affected your state pension. What it does mean is that you will have been recorded as "contracted out" and your state pension will be reduced slightly.

Dempie55 Thu 21-Mar-24 13:34:25

Just been listening to the News. Ombudsman has finally released the report. Recommended compensation between £1000 to £3000. DWP has apparently already said it has no intention of complying. So now what? The can gets kicked further down the road for the next government to deal with?

Bea65 Thu 21-Mar-24 13:09:15

Callistemon21 I'd forgotten about that when I left BHam Area Health Authority lates 70s/early 80s, my contributions were returned to me...and then when I got another job, you had to be with the company 2 yrs before you were allowed to join the pension scheme and yes, different rules for women...

Callistemon21 Thu 21-Mar-24 12:06:00

I think they should become Government advisers.
Nice cushy office job, telling them where they're going wrong and what they ought to be doing.