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World War 3

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Allsorts Fri 22-Nov-24 15:39:46

I have just seen on the internet that WW3 has been started by Russia. Just hope its fake news. It was in the Daily Mail

David49 Sun 01-Dec-24 07:34:06

Every media outlet has an editorial agenda even the BBC, some of the national newspapers publish articles that are downright scurrilous. They are not interested in news it’s all about increasing viewing or circulation.

M0nica Sat 30-Nov-24 22:08:44

BBC, ITN, Sky, Most national newspapers, all have online sites. Over time you learn to recognise reliable sites - and their biasses because every site has a bias, but if the facts are write you can shrug off their interpretaion of them.

I think in broad terms suspect ones are social media accounts on X, TikTok, Facebook and the like - even Gransnet!

If I sound picky I spent my whole working life providing senior managers with information on a wide range of subjects - and it had to be correcr and provable. so I am like that over any information, even to friends and family.

Macadia Sat 30-Nov-24 17:03:50

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Macadia Sat 30-Nov-24 17:03:24

Thanks M0nica. What are some of the more reliable media channels and ones to avoid?

M0nica Sat 30-Nov-24 07:42:55

Macadia Social media is a very unreliable souce of information. Better to stick to the main news channels. They are not perfect, but their biasses are well known, and they are a lot more reliable than social media.

David49 Sat 30-Nov-24 06:50:39

It seems to me that Jill Biden is being the classical “Political Wife”, standing by her man.
In contrast Melania just lets Trump go his own way and is happy to be wheeled out when she is told to, she did try to get involved but got lambasted by the media.

nanna8 Fri 29-Nov-24 23:12:11

Get used to him and make the best of it because he will be around for a while now. You never know, he might turn out to be better than expected. I think he will be fine for the US but the rest of us ? Not so much.

Macadia Fri 29-Nov-24 23:02:34

Donald Trump is such a bigly LIAR. He is playing us. He spews lies at every opportunity and probably laughs at people (like me) following these lies. I remember a few years ago when he said people should inject bleach intraveneously to remove the covid virus. I will put my head in the sand just to remove myself from the nonsense this being vomits to the press.

Macadia Fri 29-Nov-24 22:58:04

I dug a little deeper and found that the gossip about Jill was running the country was based on her sitting at the head of the table at the Presidential Cabinet Meeting on October 20, 2024 and was a LIE produced by no other than Donald Trump.

Jill was not running the Presidential Cabinet meeting as some fakers chose to say. She was giving a talk on Women's Health Research for new research on women’s midlife health and assessing unmet needs to support women’s health studies.

Uggh. I need to remove myself from this "fake news". Sorry!

pascal30 Fri 29-Nov-24 21:27:55

CariadAgain

Macadia

I don't think Joe Biden is running the country. I think Jill Biden is.

That wouldn't surprise me - and the body language recently looked to me like he's served her purposes. Recent photo of the pair of them and the body language was very crystal clear - of her looking at him closely and looking thoroughly dismayed at "how far gone" he is. Also recent footage of him stumbling repeatedly on sandy beach they were both walking along - and her body language was that she was blanking him (ie it said to me "You've served my purposes now - so you can forget me making the remotest effort to look like an attentive wife"). She thinks he's reached his "best before" date for sure....

this is completely unfounded supposition

M0nica Fri 29-Nov-24 19:46:54

Macadia

I don't think Joe Biden is running the country. I think Jill Biden is.

Since his wife has never shown any interest in politics, or even being a prominent First Lady, I doubt she is doing anything remotely political now. Biden has a big enough corps of advisors and cabinet members to run the country with him just as a cipher at the top.

Macadia Fri 29-Nov-24 19:18:52

CariadAgain

Macadia

I don't think Joe Biden is running the country. I think Jill Biden is.

That wouldn't surprise me - and the body language recently looked to me like he's served her purposes. Recent photo of the pair of them and the body language was very crystal clear - of her looking at him closely and looking thoroughly dismayed at "how far gone" he is. Also recent footage of him stumbling repeatedly on sandy beach they were both walking along - and her body language was that she was blanking him (ie it said to me "You've served my purposes now - so you can forget me making the remotest effort to look like an attentive wife"). She thinks he's reached his "best before" date for sure....

I don't think your comments about Jill and Joe were very nice. You can't say how a wife feels about her husband or put quotes into her mouth that she never said just by psychoanalysing one clip or photo.

Macadia Fri 29-Nov-24 19:15:53

M0nica

Ha ha. Proof?

No proof. Just a guess. Likely, it's just gossip. There must be hundreds of departments involved in running the country.

Joe Biden does not seem to have a public presence anmore, does he?

CariadAgain Fri 29-Nov-24 19:03:46

Macadia

I don't think Joe Biden is running the country. I think Jill Biden is.

That wouldn't surprise me - and the body language recently looked to me like he's served her purposes. Recent photo of the pair of them and the body language was very crystal clear - of her looking at him closely and looking thoroughly dismayed at "how far gone" he is. Also recent footage of him stumbling repeatedly on sandy beach they were both walking along - and her body language was that she was blanking him (ie it said to me "You've served my purposes now - so you can forget me making the remotest effort to look like an attentive wife"). She thinks he's reached his "best before" date for sure....

M0nica Fri 29-Nov-24 16:51:12

Ha ha. Proof?

Macadia Fri 29-Nov-24 09:52:30

I don't think Joe Biden is running the country. I think Jill Biden is.

petra Fri 29-Nov-24 08:37:40

MOnica
I too listened to that. I can’t praise it enough.
Anyone who is seriously interested in this war should listen to it.

M0nica Fri 29-Nov-24 08:32:23

Skydancer

I’d urge everyone to log on to the critic.co.uk and read “Why Ukraine almost certainly cannot win” by Philippe Lemoine. A recent, long and informative article.

I also heard an excellent exposition of the Ukraine situation on R4 yesterday afternoon on a programme called The Briefing Roon.

It is the second or third time I have heard this programme and each time its analysis of a current area of concern has been masterly. They did a previous one on the water industry, and revealed just how thoroughly the foreign entities that bought the water companies, have beld them dry of money and loaded them with debt.

David49 Thu 28-Nov-24 18:54:12

pascal30

Norah

Brilliant news on the POTUS Biden front -- Thousands of displaced people started returning to their homes in southern Lebanon in the first hours of a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.

I'd assume negotiations were difficult, well done him.

It said on Radio 4 yesterday that it may not last... we'll see what happens when Trump takes over as he is firmly on Isarael's side..

What needs to happen is the Lebanese Army needs to take control and stop Hezbollah controlling large parts of the country.

The US could do this if it chose to, just like it guarantees the security of Egypt and Jordan

pascal30 Thu 28-Nov-24 15:11:57

Norah

Brilliant news on the POTUS Biden front -- Thousands of displaced people started returning to their homes in southern Lebanon in the first hours of a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.

I'd assume negotiations were difficult, well done him.

It said on Radio 4 yesterday that it may not last... we'll see what happens when Trump takes over as he is firmly on Isarael's side..

Norah Thu 28-Nov-24 14:28:25

Brilliant news on the POTUS Biden front -- Thousands of displaced people started returning to their homes in southern Lebanon in the first hours of a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.

I'd assume negotiations were difficult, well done him.

Skydancer Thu 28-Nov-24 13:27:19

I’d urge everyone to log on to the critic.co.uk and read “Why Ukraine almost certainly cannot win” by Philippe Lemoine. A recent, long and informative article.

nanna8 Thu 28-Nov-24 12:04:54

If you don’t like China’s policies you need to keep faith with the US. Like it or not. That’s why Starmer is trying to be more friendly towards Trump ( I somehow doubt they will ever be true ‘friends’ though)

pascal30 Wed 27-Nov-24 13:01:24

M0nica

I wish I could be so hopeful. I think Trump will force a grossly unjust solution on Ukraine and NATO and the West will lose that countries trust and pro-Western outlook, pishing it back towards, probably, China, for international support.

Do we really want that?

I agree.. I think we need to keep a very close eye on China.. it has business concerns and land in so many countries now

M0nica Wed 27-Nov-24 12:52:23

CariadAgain

M0nica

Who are Biden's puppet masters and why do they want to keep the war going?

I think we'd all like to know who/or what is really the President of America currently - as we all know it ain't Biden (as he's probably not capable of deciding what he wants for breakfast).

It is very very dangerous to have someone as far gone to dementia as he is nominally running a superpower - and I wouldnt even want him nominally running a tiny country like Leichtenstein or the local corner shop.

What is the evidence for Biden being 'far gone' in dementia'. What kind of dementia does he have? Alzheimers? vascular? If vascular, what kind of vascular? The different dementias affect people in many very different ways.

In fact there is little or no evidence he has any kind of dementia, although I agree there is evidence that he is mentally slowing down, but he doesn't govern alone. Like all presidents he has advisors around him and only today we had te Israeli/Hezbullah ceasefire announced and that would definitely have required a lot of person to person negotiation by him as President and not his advisors.

Biden has been and still is most definitely in charge of his adminstration, every bit as much as Ronald Regan was, where eveidence that he was suffering from early signs of dementia whils still in office, is much better documented. pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6922000/

It was also sugges