Caught speeding

You did the right thing, as others have said, it’s a criminal offence. Vicky Price and Chris Hune were convicted and prison followed

Young inexperienced drivers often speed. He needs to learn the lessons herev

Like other GNs here, I think that you did absolutely the right thing. Years ago, I think that maybe people could "get away with it" (I don't condone this and I never did). However, as has been pointed out, these days the traffic cameras can identify who the driver is - or isn't!

I don't quite understand why anyone feels the need to cover for someone (who has already been driving for 4 years, after all).

100% right to tell the truth. As others have said it is a criminal offence to lie and is easily caught out on camera.

Had it been me - well I would have so wanted to. However, would not have done as you could end up in prison for lying.

Beware of the black box solution if you don't want one...

If this had ended up in court the photographic evidence would probably have shown that it was not you driving and led to further problems. I suggest you ask for the photographic evidence to see if it shows the driver.
In any event are absolutely right to name your grandson on the form.

Yes, you are doing the right thing.
I’m wonder if he was offered the choice to do the speed awareness course. If he wasn’t and it’s his first offence that may indicate that he was a fair way above the limit.

If this is a first offence, he can opt to do "Speeding awareness course" with no points. But if he's all ready has points, it's not applicable.
I did one earlier this year.

crazyH

Thanks all - I feel sooooo much better now after all your sensible advice.
No, I will NOT be lying (is it lieing or lying) for him and will not take on his points. As you all said, he will have to learn by his mistakes.
My daughter (divorced) works so hard for them. She did buy him a little car, which he has to share with his younger sister (who has just passed her driving test) . She has a job, a few miles away, involves changing 2 trains. That’s why I agreed to let him borrow my car so that his sister can use his car for work.
Thanks again you lovely people …

Investigate the black boxes, I think insurance companies provide them. Tell him that the extra insurance he pays for the use of your car could be reduced if he drives carefully and sticks to the rules of the road!

I presume he is paying the extra insurance?

Glad you have made up your mind crazyH, and I agree with your decision . It would be completely wrong to have lied about this for so many reasons.

Your grandson shouldn't expect you to break the law to protect him. It's a life lesson he needs to learn. If he had been driving his own car, he would have to face the consequences and this is no different.

Thanks all - I feel sooooo much better now after all your sensible advice.
No, I will NOT be lying (is it lieing or lying) for him and will not take on his points. As you all said, he will have to learn by his mistakes.
My daughter (divorced) works so hard for them. She did buy him a little car, which he has to share with his younger sister (who has just passed her driving test) . She has a job, a few miles away, involves changing 2 trains. That’s why I agreed to let him borrow my car so that his sister can use his car for work.
Thanks again you lovely people …

You’re being a good role model to him by being honest. You are teaching him morals. Go granny!!!! xx

No don’t feel guilty . His crime , his punishment. In MM terms he’s being a CF. However you should have the option of a speed awareness test or points . Although I think it depends on how much he was over the speed limit .
I’m interested in his parents reaction .

2013 MP Chris Huhne and his wife Vicky Pryce each got eight months in prison for perverting the course of justice when he got done for speeding and she foolishly agreed to take the points.

Say no more.

pehaps you could make your point clear about his driving by suspending his permission to borrow your car for a few months.

Nothing will make him more likely to think twice about speeding than being unable to borrow your car for a few months.

Your Grandson needs to reset his moral compass if he hoped you would take the points. You wouldn't be doing him any favours by doing so.

You did exactly the right thing.

Your grandson was being incredibly selfish, by speeding, he could have killed or injured someone innocent, he wants to drive your car, then expects you to take the blame?

If I were you, he'd never have the keys again...

I would have done the same as you but I know I would have felt awful about it. But I couldn’t lie .

Bear in mind that the cameras that take the photos for the speeding fine, show the drivers and these can be recognised. If anyone questioned who was driving, and it does happen, Both you and your grandson could end up in court and each end up with a criminal conviction. Now that would screw his life up.

I doubt whether a speeding ticket will have any effect on his ability to get a job. perhaps if he had three and went for a driving job, but otherwise I doubt it.

crazyH although they asked you to confirm if you were the driver they may already know the answer. Depending on the equipment that caught his speeding offence there may have been a camera which captured photographic evidence.

He can opt to do the course and it will hopefully make him realise the error of his ways and be a more careful driver in the future. If he takes that option his licence remains clean and the course doesn’t have to be declared on the insurance unless they directly ask that question.

No. Don't feel guilty.
Most people would not expect someone else to take the punishment for their crime!

He has been driving 4 years.
No excuse.
His problem.

Please do not feel guilty, you have done the right thing.

You have done the right thing. Please try to ignore your grandson’s emotional blackmail…
Hopefully he will apologise at some point in the future!