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Probate question

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Up2u Sun 10-May-26 06:15:13

The valuation on MIL house may have been less than the house sells for. Which means the value of her estate that’s was sent to probate could be more. Still way under the 325k. But over by around 10k. Does anyone know what I should do in these circumstances. Not had to do this before and are clueless.

Usedtobeblonde Sun 10-May-26 07:47:33

Just leave it to the solicitor handling things for you.
That is what you are paying him/her for.

ferry23 Sun 10-May-26 08:55:35

It may be subject to Capital Gains Tax but really, it depends on the circumstances. Have a read of this -

crestsurveyors.co.uk/what-happens-if-house-sold-for-more-than-probate/#pay

ferry23 Sun 10-May-26 08:56:50

By the way, I'm nothing to do with the above link! I just looked up CGT on probate valuation as I thought that may be the case and this was the first thing that popped up.

keepingquiet Sun 10-May-26 09:35:07

Usedtobeblonde

Just leave it to the solicitor handling things for you.
That is what you are paying him/her for.

This.

Graphite Sun 10-May-26 09:43:53

If the property is sold as an estate asset there will be capital gains tax to pay:

£10,000 - tax free allowance £3,000 = £7,000 * 24% = £1,680.

If there is more than one beneficiary and they have no other capital gains to use up their own annual tax free allowance of £3,000, it may be worth making a deed of appropriation. This transfers the asset to the beneficiaries before it is sold so the capital gain becomes a personal capital gain. The tax liability can then be reduced by offsetting their own tax free allowance of £3,000. The CGT rate for basic rate tax payers is 18% and for higher rate taxpayers 24%.

Say there are two beneficiaries inheriting equal shares in the estate. One in a basic rate taxpayer, one higher rate.

Gain of £5,000 each.

1. £5,000 - £3,000 = £2,000 * 18% = £360
2. £5,000 - £3,000 = £2,000 * 24% = £480

If there is only one beneficiary who pays tax at higher rate then there is no advantage in making a deed of appropriation as the tax free allowance and tax rate is the same.

As the difference in probate vale and sale value is small, HMRC would be likely to accept this arrangement.

Where someone would run into trouble is if the property is sold soon after probate for much more than the probate value and where the value of the estate falls into the IHT net. IHT is charged at 40%. HMRC could challenge the probate valuation and apply interest and penalties to any additional IHT payable.

Up2u Sun 10-May-26 18:08:50

Thank you everyone. And thanks Graphite for the explanation which I have to admit I understood some of it. Think it definitely a solicitor job and I’ll happily hand it over to them even though I know it’s gonna cost me £££s

NotSpaghetti Sun 10-May-26 18:28:45

Graphite couldn't she use form C4 to amend the probate value to match the sale pric?

If she can say to HMRC that the house was actually worth the higher price on the day the person died (and it just sold quickly), the "gain" disappears.

(I'm not sure about probate but am doing it at the moment for my own mother-in-law and seem to have read quite a lot!)

The £10k would then sort-of move from "Capital Gains" to "Inheritance Tax" where it's free because it's still under the £325k.

I think we will have this problem.

Oldnproud Sun 10-May-26 18:58:04

Up2u

Thank you everyone. And thanks Graphite for the explanation which I have to admit I understood some of it. Think it definitely a solicitor job and I’ll happily hand it over to them even though I know it’s gonna cost me £££s

This time last year we had realized that an estate we had thought would be simple to wind up was far from it, because amongst other things, an error in the drafting of the original will meant that a quarter of the estate fell under intestacy rules. We really had little choice other than to get a solicitor.

My brother made it clear to the solicitors (a big company) from day one that he was still prepared to do anything he could himself, to keep costs down. I helped by researching and locating the beneficiaries of the intestate share - I have to say, something that a fellow Gransnetter helped me hugely with (in fact, I wonder if she has contributed to this thread under a new name!)
Anyway, we are now on the verge of everything being completed - beneficiaries could be paid in a couple of weeks - and despite all the complications, it is looking like the solicitors bill will be under £16,000. Not that we had any choice,but given what they were doing, and the horror stories you hear about the their final bills, it was well worth that amount, which is far less than we had feared it might be.

What I am trying to say is that just because you need to use a solicitor doesn't have to mean that they do everything - you could look for one who will 'share ' the task, just doing the parts that you want them to.

Up2u Mon 11-May-26 15:05:59

Thank you Oldandproud. Will bear that in mind

Up2u Mon 11-May-26 15:07:13

Had heard of the C4. But not sure if could use it. Will look into it more once the house is sold and I know the correct sum. Thanks

icanhandthemback Mon 11-May-26 18:17:09

You can actually ring the tax office and ask what you need to do. They will tell you whether you need to declare it for Capital Gains or not.

SueEH Mon 11-May-26 20:10:12

I’m currently mid negotiations with HMRC re IHT and the transfer of allowances between spouses (my parents). .. before I can even apply for probate.
I mentioned to my accountant that the valuation on mum’s 50% share of the family home (which I inherited from her 5 years ago ) was very low and she replied that the figure put forward on the probate application is set in stone.
It’s a bit of a catch 22 really because the low valuation means that more of her residence nil rate allowance transfers to dad, but if I sell there’s likely to be more CGT. Can’t win really.

Granless Wed 13-May-26 07:43:21

What would you do ……….
Son and family live in Oz. For the first time ever Mother’s Day not acknowledged. UK’s day at first was recognised then it went to Oz’s day which was last week. Feel a bit hurt - should I say something/anything?

Georgesgran Wed 13-May-26 07:52:33

Sorry Granless but you need to start a new thread on this. It’s not really a legal/pension topic.

Faxgran Sat 16-May-26 12:06:30

Engage Angela Rayner’s accountant and relax 😉