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The Truth About The Menopause...Mariella Frostrup

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Pittcity Mon 26-Nov-18 22:34:58

My first thought on watching this was that it was not representative of a large majority of women who get a ten minute appointment with a GP they didn't choose after a 3 week wait.

EllanVannin Wed 28-Nov-18 09:44:00

Programmes like that make me sick gillybob and I would think that most women take them with a pinch of salt.
The one GP who had taken an interest in my problem, died suddenly. That was in the '90's and since then my faith in GP's has sunk to a real low. Today they're a joke.

gillybob Wed 28-Nov-18 10:13:16

EllanVannin My sister suggested I watch it as I am having a horrendous time with the menopause. I stuck with it in the hope of something useful coming out of it but really wasted an hour of sleeping time . I have given up expecting any help from my GP ( whoever that might be ????) and no further forward after a referral ( for which I waited months) . Of course this is the real world not the cuckoo land of MF and her friends .

Esspee Wed 28-Nov-18 11:33:48

You have the right to ask to be referred to a menopause clinic. I know not everyone lives within easy travelling distance of one but for those of us living in cities it is the best option. You will see a doctor who specialises in the menopause and I have found, on my twice annual visit, that I am given as much time as I need to discuss any concerns I might have.
My main concern is ensuring that I continue to receive my oestrogen implant which I intend to be on for life. Now on year 29 and I am so grateful that I have avoided almost all the negative aspects of the menopause. (Still have slight flushes)

gillybob Wed 28-Nov-18 11:37:25

My sister works in the NHS and said pretty much the same Esspee But I mentioned it to a couple if the GP’s in my practise and they don’t seem to agree.

JacquiG Wed 28-Nov-18 11:53:49

MissFoodLove - info about your medications should be in the packet and on the internet. Your pharmacist should provide them.

I had a very bad menopause, and went on HRT - magic. Back ok within a week. There are risks associated, but you might want to look at natural hormones (human identical estriol and progesterone). You will need to pay for these.

If you are lucky enough to go to America, you can pick these up at a Walmart pharmacy. Or could friends bring some back for you?

Fellowfeeling8 Wed 28-Nov-18 12:54:07

I was very happy taking my HRT as I felt it benefitted me. However I had emboli in both my lungs one Sunday morning, transferred to hospital with blue lights, spent a week as an inpatient and now have to be anticoagulated for life. I was told I was lucky to have survived. The only predisposing factor was that I was taking HRT. Do think carefully.

B9exchange Wed 28-Nov-18 15:31:51

I'm going to stay on it for life, had an early menopause after a hysterectomy at 39, and within a couple of years had brain fog, anxieties, three hot flushes an hour, and was completely miserable. HRT (progestogen only as no uterus) gave me back my life, and despite trying every few years, at GPs insistence, to come off it, all the symptoms came back very quickly.

I now have a reasonable GP (man!) who accepts I will not come off it. It is your body, and only you can weigh up the risks/benefits, but the one advantage of the programme was it did show that the risks were very small. It didn't mention that they are even less for those without a uterus. My main problem now is the dreadful vulval itching and soreness, like sitting astride a barbed wire fence, which I treat, but it always comes back with a vengeance. HRT doesn't seen to help with that. That wasn't mentioned at all!

Sydney2012 Wed 28-Nov-18 16:47:59

The documentary was very weak just an excuse for MF to get screen time. It’s not taboo if you have friends and family and you are open about it. I’ve been going through the menopause for 13 years now and the symptoms are now slowly fading but I still have hot flushes , mood swings and terrible anxiety but if you are open about it I found it helped me.

Esmerelda Wed 28-Nov-18 18:12:07

I guess I didn't know that it was supposed to be a taboo or secret subject ... my mum just told me not to worry about it and I didn't. Didn't have any problems whatsoever, but whether I was just lucky or not mentally predisposed to expect problems I don't know! I have to say that I feel great sympathy for those women who DO suffer badly.

Esspee Wed 28-Nov-18 18:50:54

gillybob, rather than mentioning menopause clinics to your GP why not simply ask to be referred if you feel you need further help. I do feel that we women do not stand up for ourselves enough and often accept what we are told.

gillybob Wed 28-Nov-18 18:53:52

I did ask to be referred Esspee and she told me to wait until after my biopsy results came through ( which I did and they were thankfully clear) . I couldn’t see the same GP again ( typical) and was fobbed off again by a locust .

gillybob Wed 28-Nov-18 18:56:19

Oh jeez I wasn’t fobbed off by a locust (why would an insect be working as a GP?) I was fobbed off by a locum ( took 5 attempts )

EllanVannin Wed 28-Nov-18 19:15:21

You were right first time gillybob hahahaha.

polyester57 Thu 29-Nov-18 01:16:30

I have sometimes wondered whether the length of time that I was on the Pill had anything to do with the length and severity of the menopause. We were the first generation to get the full use of the Pill, I was on it, on and off, for about thirty years. Started menopause at 50, went on HRT as I was working in a people-related job and it was the most horrible thing to be talking to someone and suddenly feel the dreaded flush coming on. Stopped taking HRT five years later, because by that time was working from home and decided to just weather it out. Don´t like to take medicines long-term. Horrendous symptoms (hot flushes, anxiety, nightmares), now am 61 and they still persist, though getting a little easier . Have asked doctor about whether being on the Pill had any connection to difficult menopause and he said he had no idea.

Pittcity Thu 29-Nov-18 08:19:09

That's an interesting theory poly
I felt rotten taking the pill so gave up after a couple of months. Menopause has not been too bad so far (I ruled out HRT thinking it would affect me adversely as the pill did). So I think there could be something in your idea.

gillybob Thu 29-Nov-18 08:23:04

Speaking of taking the pill . My sister was on it from about 18 to late 40’s . She stopped taking it when she stopped bleeding . A blood test confirmed menopause . No symptoms whatsoever . I never took the pill and despite being 5 years older have had a prolonged menopause with every possible symptom .

Pittcity Thu 29-Nov-18 08:25:49

That's that theory blown out of the water. I guess it's just the luck of the draw like most things in life.

gillybob Thu 29-Nov-18 08:41:07

Sorry Pittcity . My sisters GP said the contraceptive pill was probably masking menopausal symptoms for several years . My sister never had any children either which I suppose is another factor to consider.

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utterbliss Thu 29-Nov-18 15:17:55

I really do not understand women who make other women feel they are making a fuss. just because they have not suffered a terrible menopause. As women we should be kinder to each other. I am into 14 years of all the menopause hell. I met a lady in her eighties who is still suffering.

Florence64 Thu 29-Nov-18 17:03:47

I felt Mariella's experience was different to most women because she appeared to see private specialists, which most of us can't afford. Not everyone has been offered, or takes HRT either. My menopause has been dogged by excessive bleeding due to fibroids, but I can't have anything done as it's too painful, unless I have a general anaesthetic, which I don't want because of my weight. They put me on Esmya to shrink the fibroids, but it made me gain huge amounts of weight and caused me to have excessive sweating, especially at night - it was horrendous. In the end we have settled for the mini pill, which has stopped my periods and I don't have any other symptoms - I'm 54. After Christmas I am coming off the mini pill to see if I have gone through the menopause naturally - I really, really hope I have.

Esspee Thu 29-Nov-18 17:05:03

My attitude is that the menopause is caused by lack of oestrogen so the obvious solution is to replace the oestrogen. It certainly works for me.
My mother suffered (and I mean SUFFERED) from osteoporosis, my bones are extremely robust. She lost inches in height by my age, I am as tall as I have ever been. When she was my age she looked old and acted like an old lady. I am full of energy and don't look my age.
HRT has been a blessing and everyone I know who is on it is thriving.
I feel so sorry for those who wish to go through the menopause "naturally". Medicine has made that unnecessary. If we kept to "natural" we would almost all be dead before we reached 50 and our ovaries gave out.

dressingown Thu 29-Nov-18 18:08:07

I started taking HRT at the age of 41 having been on the birth control pill from the age of 18 apart from when I had my two children. When my periods stopped at 41 the GP said I was in the menopause after he had done blood tests to confirm this. He recommended HRT after I had read up on this and said the birth control pill had probably been masking early menopause which I could have been in for a while. Unfortunately this GP retired but recommended I stay on HRT. Trying to get new young GP's in the practice to continue prescribing this was always a battle. I came off it for a while my choice to see what happened and all my symptoms returned.On seeing a young female GP in the practice saying I wanted to go back on HRT and explaining why she offered me anti depressants to control night sweats and as I refused her offer said she would not prescribe HRT what I wanted and would refer me to a gynaecologist who then wanted me to go to a menopause clinic.This I refused and made an appointment with a more senior male partner within the practice. Thank fully he realised I was well informed and was happy to prescribe HRT in patches which I requested. I am 68 now and no longer have hot flushes or wake up several times in the night wet through and I feel back to normal. I am sure my bone structure is better too although I have not been offered any tests to check this out.I intend staying on HRT as long as possible but you need an understanding GP. I wish the producers of the TV program could see all the comments on here and do a follow up program.

gillybob Thu 29-Nov-18 19:19:47

My GP gave me a prescription for blood pressure tablets saying that one of the side effects was that they prevented night sweating . My cousin works in the pharmacy where I pick my prescriptions up and she brought the pharmacist out to see me . It turns out that the GP should never have given me the prescription for BP as I have quite low BP anyway . She said that Taking these could have caused me to pass out !

Lollin Fri 30-Nov-18 00:06:10

shock did you return to your doctor gillybob?