Are we really past it? (humph)

jeni that's the style. Like you, I'm happy in my own skin...which seems to fit where it should...and where it doesn't, is no business of anyone other than my husband and me.

Good for you jeni, I'm with you all the way!

I'm fat,wrinkly, arthritic, crotchety,don't wear makeup very often!
But guess what!
I don't care what people think!
I think that I'm still quite intelligent,also people seem to think I have a GSOH!
So, I'll carry on as I am

anagram
Thank you for your diplomacy....
Yes, she is " our " age.

Not stupid, johanna, you just left it out - I'm assuming she was 60-ish?
I can't see that sort of thing catching on in this country, though. I don't think they'd find many clients out on the streets!

Of course. Sorry!
How stupid.

Oh, I see, johanna - but you didn't tell us how old your friend was...

Yes * anagram* indeed they did.
The older guy was " selling " the younger one.
Can you imagine?

I suppose the moral of the story is that 60 is definitely not the new 40.

What, they expected her to pay for it?

sorry, of TO an exhibition

This thread reminds me of a very funny story.
My friend, who lives in Amsterdam, took herself of the an exhibition.
It was a beautiful day, so she decided to walk, instead of the tram.
As she is trotting along the canal on the one side, she noticed two men on the other side.
An old man and a younger one.
They were looking at her.
And, yessss , when they reached the next bridge, the men crossed over and approached her, and a conversation followed.
She was devastated.
As she said to me: " I obviously look old enough to want to pay for it!! "

I don't think I look like an old crone, but it wouldn't bother me if I did. (I know you didn't mean me!) What difference would it make to my life? I know I look healthy!

Well - I think some of us are past it and others are lucky enough not to be!
I don't remotely look my age (or so everyone says) partly because I have dark hair with no grey hairs at 63 and I have kept my figure........but my health is that of someone quite a bit older (arthritis all over the place, giddiness problems etc.). Personally I would rather look like an old crone and feel well!

Just been talking to a 62 year old woman who runs marathons - I was trying not to appear jealous. I cannot run, full stop.

Luckily my interests do not demand too much physical exertion - although the grandchildren do!

Cheeky little dig at Cherie Lunghi for hitting 60 two weeks earlier than the writer perhaps?
If I had looked half as good at 60 I wouldn't be moaning, however I am me and there's not a lot I can do about it so I have to make the best of it.As for feeling your age on the inside - no chance. I am still in awe of tall people and those with "grown up jobs", like DDs I don't let on though, and try to keep smiling serenely whatever. (But I do wonder why my Mum looks out of the mirror at me some mornings!)

Susie, I don't know if you have a permanent partner - if you have, would he really not fancy you without your make-up, etc? Most of the men I have known said they preferred a natural look. There is no connection that I can see between enjoying sex and wearing make-up!
I genuinely do not understand why people want to look younger than they are, unless you are in a profession where it matters.

I have never been a sex siren so I wont become one now at 59 and a half BUT I still like sex and make myself as attractive as I can be I don't kid myself about that but when I think about what my mother and her mother looked like at my age through hard work and lack of cosmetics, hair dye etc there have definitely been improvements.

I suppose it could be said that I am not 'making the best of myself' as I don't use make-up, hair dye, contact lenses, perfume..........I am very glad to be extremely fit and healthy and I think that is more important.
I don't want to attract men and I am not in the business of comparing myself (and competing) with other women.
I think the constant stress in newspapers and magazines on the way women look is very sad - no wonder girls of eight are anorexic and 16 year old girls are asking for breast augmentation. Why do we have to pander to men's erotic fantasies?

As for being a sex siren, I wasn't keen on that in my twenties.

I agree with Absentgrana and Granb. If you're sixty you're sixty, even if you are a relatively healthy/good looking version of that age. You could climb Everest every month and you'd still be sixty and therefore elderly or heading towards it fast.

Years ago my mother told me that as you get older you don't compare yourself with young women, rather others of your own age.

I agree with you, Granb. What's to 'hate' about the article?

I think I must have read a slightly different article! I thought she was ultimately celebrating her life and that despite the difficulties, she would not have changed/would not wish to change much and likes the person she is now.

The fact that we can have surgery/dye our hair/botox our wrinkles etc does in fact upset the 'natural' balance. Nature does not (in the main... and I know there will always be exceptions) intend us to attract younger and more virile/fertile mates after we have reached a certain age. On the whole, those youngsters can instinctively see through the artifice. For most people, they are only really trying to look younger to impress others of the same age!

I have always thought that the reason our eyesight goes in our later years is so that the mate who was so attracted to us 30+ years ago looks thinks we look just the same now!

I have to admit to asking my hairdresser to use subtle colours to give me a natural looking head of hair without any grey bits showing through and hiding my DOH's glasses

Where is the logic? If you are sixty, then you feel like sixty - by definition - although not everyone feels the same as other poeple the same age (at 60 or any other age). You cannot truly feel like 35 or 40 unless you have been in a coma for decades or are so stupid that you have learned nothing along the way. What she is really saying is that she thinks sixty is so old, daft and useless that she doesn't want to admit her age - even, or perhaps, especially to herself.

kittylester I bet you were too busy like me

I wish I had known I was a sex siren at any time - I must have missed it!

Annika