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Julian Assange

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JessM Thu 16-Aug-12 08:17:44

Sigh.
Whether Assange is a guilty of a sexual assault in Sweden, or not, the UK government should keep their heads down and stop bowing to US pressure.
JA is holed up in the Ecuadorean embassy in London. Now they are threatening to use some 1987 legislation to use it to revoke the diplomatic status of the embassy. The Ecuadoreans have done nothing wrong.
To do this, I think, would make British Embassies around the world very vulnerable. Do as you would be done by.

POGS Tue 21-Aug-12 19:53:35

absent.

Sadly very true. Strange our news stations don't get a view from other countries apart from Equador and his followers.

Could be interesting to know the feelings of the various international and E.U bodies.

Anagram Tue 21-Aug-12 19:49:28

The local people they spoke to on Newsnight seemed not to know much about Assange, but were glad to seize upon the opportunity to stick two fingers up at both the US and the UK.

absentgrana Tue 21-Aug-12 19:39:46

POGS I don't think the President of Ecuador backed Assange because his life was in danger but because he likes to stick up two fingers to the US – an increasingly common attitude these days that, sadly, the US does little to improve. The President of Ecuador has no problem about putting the lives of tiresome media people in danger (or simply ending them) if they annoy him. I don;t think the people of Ecuador were consulted about Assange and certainly not all of them approve.

POGS Tue 21-Aug-12 19:21:46

Wow

Has anybody watched R.T.Today. They have quoted a swedish minister who declared to a german newspaper 'Sweden will not send Assange to any country that could give him the death penalty'

Does anyone think things could move forward?

I think Assange would surely show his true colours if he did not go to Sweden. Has he not seeked asylum stating his life was in danger and that was the reason Equador backed him.

soop Tue 21-Aug-12 16:47:51

There was a mischievous twinkle in his eyes. They certainly were far from "blank"...

POGS Tue 21-Aug-12 15:50:32

Anagram, thank you.

POGS Tue 21-Aug-12 15:49:47

soop.

Poor old Marty Feldman. Where would he be in that thought. smile

Anagram Tue 21-Aug-12 15:48:53

Yes, POGS it was Joan Smith of The Indpendent.

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 15:44:49

{{{ shudder! }}}

soop Tue 21-Aug-12 15:40:23

Jings A cruel person has the coldest eyes.

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 15:25:24

Can eyes be sad? Or smiling?

Or is it what's going on around the eyes? While the eyes stay the same?

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 15:22:36

Yes. I sort of agree with that. Although I think it's more the look on the face rather than the eyes themselves.

soop Tue 21-Aug-12 15:18:21

Another light-hearted aside...Does anyone agree that the eyes are mirrors of the soul? smile

POGS Tue 21-Aug-12 15:08:44

Anagram

I am being very lazy, can't be bothered to re view Newsnight.

A friend has just called and we were discussing Assange. She did not see Newsnight. Can you tell me, was the woman from the Independant Newspaper or had I said the wrong thing.? I was telling her how sensible she was and I felt true to herself and not going along with anything other than facts.

janthea Tue 21-Aug-12 15:00:15

I think Assange should answer the allegations that Sweden are making and not hide out in a foreign embassy on UK soil. He's a coward and using the situation for his own purposes. If he's innocent, then he has nothing to fear. This really isn't the UK's problem and we should stay out of it. Our only involvement should be to ensure that he gets to Sweden to answers the questions they have.

Anagram Tue 21-Aug-12 14:05:14

It was only a light-hearted aside to the thread subject, POGS smile

POGS Tue 21-Aug-12 13:50:10

I don't think the comments made re his appearance are really the issue, surely.

We all at times have made comments of a similar nature and when we write them or read them we understand it is a generalisation not a comment that is meant as gospel.

I liken it to someone saying Blair or Cameron or Balls look smug.
Milliband looks like Grommit. It can be nothing more than simple joshing and or a light hearted way of putting your point of view. Goodness knows I have read some comments about politicians that have been made in just that way.

confused

Anagram Tue 21-Aug-12 13:38:15

I agree. It's rather bland and characterless.

absentgrana Tue 21-Aug-12 13:33:01

It is not for George Galloway to define rape for the Swedish legal system. Given the way he lauded Saddam Hussein to the skies, I would suggest that he is severely lacking in any sort of reasonable judgement. It is also not for George Galloway to decide that the women who have made the allegations against Julian Assange are liars.

Strangely, I don't think Julian Assange's face betrays much at all.

Nonu Tue 21-Aug-12 11:08:05

I think your character is reflected in your face bigsmile

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 11:04:59

I should have made it clearer what I meant.

Sorry.

Bags Tue 21-Aug-12 10:47:04

Simple enough, yes, but probably not true.

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 10:45:19

Oh don't be silly!

That is a ridiculous post!

You must realise I mean character is reflected in someone's face as one grows older.

That simple enough for you?

hmm

Bags Tue 21-Aug-12 10:43:14

That's rubbish, jings, and you know it. What about all the children born with cleft palate problems? Did they 'deserve' their poor deformed faces? angry

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 10:41:32

We get the face we deserve.

Looks can tell a lot about a person.