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Julian Assange

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JessM Thu 16-Aug-12 08:17:44

Sigh.
Whether Assange is a guilty of a sexual assault in Sweden, or not, the UK government should keep their heads down and stop bowing to US pressure.
JA is holed up in the Ecuadorean embassy in London. Now they are threatening to use some 1987 legislation to use it to revoke the diplomatic status of the embassy. The Ecuadoreans have done nothing wrong.
To do this, I think, would make British Embassies around the world very vulnerable. Do as you would be done by.

Nanadogsbody Thu 23-Aug-12 08:01:51

Got it in one petallus

Nelliemoser Thu 23-Aug-12 08:37:19

Julian Assange looks to me like a guy who is full of his own importance and who thinks he is infallible. He might just be the sort of person who would find it hard to believe that not everyone might find him attractive.

absentgrana Thu 23-Aug-12 08:44:23

Bags Traditional Chinese medicine uses rhino horn as a febrifuge, not an aphrodisiac. Not that it matters because it isn't either.

petallus Thu 23-Aug-12 08:47:19

Those who feel sure they can judge character and even guilt by looks could save the judicial system a fortune.

No more costly court cases!

petallus Thu 23-Aug-12 08:47:47

Meant tot put a smile at the end

absentgrana Thu 23-Aug-12 08:51:09

I have just read through this whole thread again and, for the record, there doesn't seem to be a consensus. Rather, there is a considerable range of views – some quite extreme, one way or the other, and a lot in the middle with plenty of provisos. And, like many other threads, masses of stuff that has nothing to do with the subject. As we are once again getting hints that people won't post their views because the majority won't agree with them – a fairly feeble viewpoint in the first place – please note that there does not seem to be a majority to disagree.

Annobel Thu 23-Aug-12 08:59:12

Thanks for the analysis, absent. I must admit to having a hard time knowing just what to think about Mr Assange. I don't think he is a genius or a hero and I do think it has to be established whether or not he has a case to answer in Sweden. However, I am aware that he uncovered some highly unpalatable facts that the US administration would rather have kept under wraps. Is he a champion of freedom of information? Sorry, I'm rambling. absent, I need you to put me straight!

JO4 Thu 23-Aug-12 09:26:21

He's John Inman! Don't bring lovely old John Humphrys into it! hmm

Lips very different in picture (which is very funny. thanks Trishs)

pettalus a grin was needed, not a smile. No one is going that far. hmm

petallus Thu 23-Aug-12 10:45:23

Just typed something and it disappeared ??

I said thanks JO4. Of course Inman. Think I got confused because Inman's character in Are You Being Served? was always talking to a Mr Humphries. grin

Anagram Thu 23-Aug-12 10:52:37

John Inman actually played 'Mr Humphries' didn't he? confused

petallus Thu 23-Aug-12 10:55:17

Could well have done. I just associate the name Humphries with the actor. I used to love that program.

Butternut Thu 23-Aug-12 11:00:16

The best article I've read so far surrounding this whole issue.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/politics/2012/08/pursuit-julian-assange-assault-freedom-and-mockery-journalism

JO4 Thu 23-Aug-12 12:07:58

"As we are once again getting hints that people won't post their views because the majority won't agree with them – a fairly feeble viewpoint in the first place –"

You calling me feeble Missis?! shock

JO4 Thu 23-Aug-12 12:08:36

That was to absent of course.

Bags Thu 23-Aug-12 12:47:23

Thank you, butty. Quite an illuminating article. I must be a dyed in the wool cynic because none of it surprised me.

absentgrana Thu 23-Aug-12 12:55:31

JO4 You may have chosen not to post sometimes on some threads, but no one could ever accuse you of being timid. So no, I'm not.

jeni Thu 23-Aug-12 13:47:33

jingleTIMIDshock the two words shouldn't even appear in the same thread!grin

Butternut Thu 23-Aug-12 13:49:42

On the whole, it didn't surprise me either B. Now a question of waiting and seeing.

absentgrana Thu 23-Aug-12 13:54:37

Butternut I do like John Pilger, especially when he's really got into gear. He certainly makes some worthwhile points. Was he the guy who wrote Blair's Wars?

Nanadogsbody Thu 23-Aug-12 16:08:14

I think John Kampfner wrote Blair's Wars but there was another book with the same name so perhaps? I also have great respect and admiration for John Pilger and the article typically shows the depth and range of his knowledge as an independent journalist and thinker.

jeni who is jingle? confused

Butternut Thu 23-Aug-12 16:35:55

John Pilger wrote an article called Blair's Bombs some years ago - maybe that's what you're thinking of, absent and Nanadogsbody.

On the whole I really like his work, and the passion he has in his beliefs. I feel he can always be counted on to have done considerable research, whether one agrees with his sentiments or not. Yes, a marvellous independent journalist and thinker!

Annobel Thu 23-Aug-12 16:45:57

jingl was one of the many previous incarnations of JO4!

Faye Thu 23-Aug-12 16:56:01

John Pilger is an Australian and was born in 1939. He has immense experience, having worked for many major newspapers around the world including The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald, two of 30% of newspapers not owned by Murdoch in Australia. johnpilger.com/articles

Nanadogsbody Thu 23-Aug-12 17:02:06

Sort of like the many-headed hydra?

jeni Thu 23-Aug-12 17:33:42

Very!