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Julian Assange

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JessM Thu 16-Aug-12 08:17:44

Sigh.
Whether Assange is a guilty of a sexual assault in Sweden, or not, the UK government should keep their heads down and stop bowing to US pressure.
JA is holed up in the Ecuadorean embassy in London. Now they are threatening to use some 1987 legislation to use it to revoke the diplomatic status of the embassy. The Ecuadoreans have done nothing wrong.
To do this, I think, would make British Embassies around the world very vulnerable. Do as you would be done by.

JO4 Thu 23-Aug-12 17:37:38

Oi!!!

jeni Thu 23-Aug-12 17:41:00

As I said grin

Faye Thu 23-Aug-12 17:56:06

He has been around for a long time. www.johnpilger.com/. Scroll further down the page.

Butternut Thu 23-Aug-12 18:29:40

Faye I watched an Australian investigative programme about JA just recently; a series called 4x4. Do you know it? I'd followed a series of links to get to it - and cannot remember how, otherwise I'd provide a link - but found it very interesting indeed.

Faye Thu 23-Aug-12 18:56:49

Butternut It could be a programme called Four Corners (4x4) by the abc.com.au www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2011/s3135595.htm. and www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2011/s3135595.htm.

Faye Thu 23-Aug-12 18:59:35

Sorry here is the other one confused www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/07/19/3549280.htm

Butternut Thu 23-Aug-12 19:30:30

That's the one, Faye.

Faye Thu 23-Aug-12 21:22:22

Butternut was it the second link? Four Corners is good value and I like how the reporter went to Sweden to get the facts. I dislike sloppy journalism where they report hearsay as the facts then the public believe it as the gospel truth. Most media news nowadays is very biased.

petallus Thu 23-Aug-12 21:27:14

Excellent article.

If I were JA I'd be feeling quite scared.

Nanadogsbody Thu 23-Aug-12 22:11:11

I found that a very scary and worrying video and agree that if I were JA I'd feel very vulnerable. No wonder he sought refuge in an embassy that does not cowtow to the US.

petallus Sat 25-Aug-12 14:19:58

I've only just discovered from a friend who is anti-JA what the sexual assault was.

Of course, wrong of him but, comparatively speaking, a bit of a technicality?

nanaej Sat 25-Aug-12 22:57:57

Read the piece in the Guardian today..small items by people who know him. Comes over as a very contrary character..even his supporters accept he can be arrogant and egocentric ... but that does not mean he should be extradited but any sexual assault needs to be sorted out.
You'd think in this day and age you could hold a trial by video link between a Swedish court and the Ecuadorean Embassy.. would that work? Could it be agreed that, if found guilty of assault, he could serve any custodial sentence in England ? Seems such an easy solution to move the situation forward.. I know I know nothing about international legal arrangements but why am I not in charge? grin

petallus Sun 26-Aug-12 08:19:23

I am even more disillusioned with the Guardian after reading the article in the New Statesman which accuses them of biased reporting against JA through pique.

In terms of trust I used to put my faith in the Guardian but I rate the Statesman above them.

If any 'ordinary' woman had gone to the police to make a complaint such as the one against JA, I wonder what kind of response she would have met with.

It's difficult enough with rape.

Lilygran Sun 26-Aug-12 11:30:35

The Grauniad was the paper that first started publishing Assange's stuff but they dropped him when they found he was totally unprepared to consider that some of the material should not be made public as it might actually result in innocent people being targeted by terrorists. He's not a whistleblower, he's a totally self-obsessed nutter person. The member of the US armed forces who gave Assange the information is a whistleblower with the courage of his convictions since he's liable to be found guilty of treason.

petallus Sun 26-Aug-12 12:09:12

Not according to the New Statesman Lilygran. More like JA dropped them.

I suppose we'll never know the entire truth of the matter.

Meanwhile, I am guessing his days are numbered.

nanaej Sun 26-Aug-12 20:23:17

The pieces in the Guardian were by people who knew J A .. including his mum!

It does seem that he is a Marmite kind of guy ( or Vegemite!) you either support or oppose him once you know him! Although there seem to be people who were 'with' him and worked closely with him but who now do not support him as a result od JAs reported inflexibilty..though there are also those who have stayed loyal.. John Pilger for example.

From snippets I have read I have wondered if he may have a condition like Aspergers Syndrome.. he seems to have odd social skills, obsessions plus a very egocentric view of the world.