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Ian Brady reveals burial site.

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glassortwo Fri 17-Aug-12 08:22:17

Brady's legal advocate was detained in south Wales on suspicion of preventing the burial of a body without lawful exercise.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ian-brady-reveals-where-victim-keith-bennett-is-buried-8056369.html

Anagram Sat 18-Aug-12 11:29:35

I see now that they have found no trace of the alleged letter and Jackie Powell now says she gave it back to Brady! It's beginning to sound as though she got rather carried away during the making of the documentary.....

Barrow Sat 18-Aug-12 11:34:54

Just heard on the news that Keith's mother has died. What an evil man not to have given her some peace in the final years of her life.

gma Sat 18-Aug-12 11:42:29

Just caught the very sad news that Winnie Johnson, mother of Keith Bennett, one of Ian Brady's victims has died. Just cannot imagine how she has lived for almost the last 50 years not knowing where her sons remains were. Brady however, still holding the secret of the poor little boys resting place.How do we ever make sense of this, almost fifty years on and now we will never know. Just let Brady die, hopefully in pain, for the life sentence he has inflicted on this family. Im not going to get into the discussion about the death sentence, but it makes you think. Rest in peace Winnie Johnson, at last reunited with your son. flowers

Nonu Sat 18-Aug-12 11:55:20

That is one of the saddest pieces of news I"ve heard in a long time . So the poor , poor woman never did get to find out where her child was buried . What a B-----d is Brady sad

JO4 Sat 18-Aug-12 11:56:55

So sad.

Peace at last Winnie.

absentgrana Sat 18-Aug-12 12:22:32

Winnie Johnson's life was sad. Death must have come as a comfort and welcome release.

nightowl Sat 18-Aug-12 14:10:45

That is so sad. She has lived all these years with the hope that she would some day have her child restored to her and that evil man has tortured her to the end.

At the same time, I am glad to live in a civilised country, where even murderers are looked after, where their human rights are respected, and where those who are deemed to lack responsibilty for their actions are treated as such. Although the mother in me would like to tear Brady limb from limb, I am glad the state will not allow this. Otherwise we sink to their level, and lose all sense of what is good and what is evil. I believe we have to be better than they are.

glassortwo Sat 18-Aug-12 15:15:31

Very sad to hear of Winnie's death this morning sad

merlotgran Sat 18-Aug-12 17:17:01

Apparently Winnie wasn't told about the letter. Thank God for that sad

whenim64 Sat 18-Aug-12 18:18:44

I feel very sad about Winnie Johnson. Her life was blighted all those years ago and now she has died without knowing where her son is buried.

I agree with nghtowl. It is a good job we have civilised laws, otherwise that would make for a brutal society.

glammanana Sat 18-Aug-12 19:09:50

I am very sad for the Johnson family at last the poor woman can be at peace with her child.
Brady such an evil evil man who will be relishing in the publicity again such a B.....d of a person I couldn't even class him as a man.
I was under the impression that any letters written in prison/secure hospital where read by the prison authorities prior to them leaving the premises or would he have differant treatment to other inmates.

whenim64 Sat 18-Aug-12 19:21:41

If Brady passed documents to his advocate, they won't have been read by hospital workers, glamma. If she has taken a letter out of Ashworth, knowing it could contain a message for Winnie Johnson, she has been unprofessional. She couldn't be so naive as not to understand the implications of it.

AlisonMA Sat 18-Aug-12 19:30:45

I keep thinking about this advocate. She is either very brave or very stupid to take on such a role with this man. I think that when you take on this role you have to only think of the interests of your client and I am sure I could not do that in this case.

petallus Sat 18-Aug-12 20:06:01

Did anyone see the tele drama a few months ago about the advocate for Fred West?

Anagram Sat 18-Aug-12 20:18:01

I was just thinking about that, petallus. Poor woman was nealy destroyed.

POGS Sat 18-Aug-12 22:10:57

Re my comment before, the programme about Brady is on Channel 4 at 9.00p.m. I don't know if I want to watch it? Should we. Shouldn't we?

Totally agree with all the comments showing empathy for Winnie.

Nanadogsbody Sat 18-Aug-12 22:54:00

What possible reason can there be for another Brady programme? We've heard all we ever want to about the evil, little b.....d.

Anagram Sat 18-Aug-12 22:55:16

Some people have a morbid interest in him, Nanadogsbody....confused

glassortwo Sat 18-Aug-12 23:03:48

I certainly wont watch it, the sooner he is forgotten the better, its just feeding his ego!

numberplease Sun 19-Aug-12 01:39:07

Actually, even if Brady did tell police where Keith is buried, having travelled over Saddleworth moor before and since the murders happened, it`s changed so much that I don`t think that even Brady could find the spot now. The M62 has been built across there, plus all the access roads, apart from still being eerie and forbidding up there, it has completely changed in appearance.

ladybird9 Sun 19-Aug-12 07:01:12

Pogs, I couldn't agree with you more, why oh why has the evil lump been allowed to breath the air that we all breath when he and his evil partner MH indulged in such an unacceptable crime. It has been absolutely proven of the guilt to B & H and yet they have been allowed their lives, bring back hanging or the equivalent, have we the space on our planet for these monsters !!!!!!!!! Mrs Bennett was denied her child at the expense of Brady and Hindley. Who has suffered the most ????? !!!!!!!!! need we ask.

Nanadogsbody Sun 19-Aug-12 07:52:43

That's why I think he should continue to be force fed. He warns to die, so deny him what he wants most. That is the ultimate punishment.

bikergran Sun 19-Aug-12 08:02:26

I agree with Nanadogsbody I am glad that he death penalty is not with us at the momemt..let this evil thing suffer for as long as poss...death would have come to easy for Brady! he would have been gone long ago.. and therefore he would not have suffered, unlike Kieths mum, yes, let him be force fed for as long as poss,, deny him! his rights..like he denied others of theirs,,I would gladly pay my taxes to keep him alive to make him suffer ! the longer the better.......

POGS Sun 19-Aug-12 16:03:25

The problem I have is why he is so called 'suffering'. ??

Nanadogsbody Sun 19-Aug-12 16:18:35

I'm wondering how he is force fed? I can't imagine it's a case of "You'll sit here Brady until you eat if!" somehow. So is a feeding tube inserted into his nose or his mouth?

Whatever method is used it has been going on for 12 years now according to my paper and is against his wishes. So I count that as suffering....or at least I'd hate it!!!!! hmm