Ian Brady reveals burial site.

I have just finished reading an article about this case in the Sunday Times.

Ian Brady has been force fed for 13 years, starting when he nearly succeeded in starving himself to death.

Recently he suffered a seizure which meant the force feeding could not be continued and he has once again got to starvation levels. I think that is why he informed Powell about the existence of a letter in his papers which are in a secure place.

Incidentally, whether or not you think someone should be an advocate for IB, she certainly seems to be suffering for it now. Seems although she informed the police of the letter a couple of weeks ago and was interviewed for over an hour and they weren't all that interested then, recently they raided her house, man-handled her and her teenage son, called her scum and removed all her computers and papers, took her out of her house in handcuffs and are now searching her house.

I think she has had to go into hiding.

The term 'force-fed' conjures up pictures of a person being held down whilst food is forced down them. Obviously this is not the case - he will have either been 'bolus' fed through a tube into his stomach or given the feed through his nose down into his stomach. I think the worst he'll have 'suffered' will have been having to have his hands out of the way while this is done.

Just retrieved this...it had disappeared.

I read an article by someone who spent time with Brady gathering information for a book. He said the two hours a day Brady is force-fed are the hightlight of his (Brady's) day and is the time when he does his correspondence. Apparently the liquid food is pumped through a drip in his nose.

Sorry to appear a bit crude but given his tendancy for children, I think it is the wrong orrifice!!!!

If this is the level the discussion is going to descend to, count me out.

I think that's why there were no more posts on this thread after that one, Nanadogsbody.

Absolutely. I was wondering if someone had been at the gin bottle, in which case it's entirely forgivable. I once had three goes at writing a post after hitting the red wine a little too freely! Spoonerisms galore and words in the wrong order.

It looks as if he won't last long now as he is like a skeleton anyway.
Just wish he had been left alone to go on hunger strike till he died, like the IRA hunger strikers did. He has been kept alive against his will for years (why??) and think what it has cost the country to pay for all his care in that time.
My heard breaks for poor Winnie Johnson who spent her life trying to find where her son is buried. Too late for her now but she is a peace at last.
Brady will roast in hell along with Myra Hindley.

Wanting someone to "roast in hell" for eternity is as evil as it comes. Think about it!

I agree that he could have been left to starve, since that's what he chose to do himself. Why do we, as a culture, have such a hang-up about not letting people die? It's not the same as killing them.

I think because he is regarded as of not being of sound mind, the duty of care thing slots into place. This applies to anyone who is deemed unable to make rational decisions once sectioned – and that includes Ian Brady, however hideous and appalling his crimes.

Here is no reason whatever to think that anyone is going to 'roast' in 'hell' for any unfeasible length of time. When Brady dies, he will be... dead.

This kind of wishful thinking is rather shocking, isn't it? Revenge is not a noble cause.

Agree with Bags and feetlebaum

I hope he, and Hindley, rot in hell.

I hate them.

they will rot in the ground, same as the rest of us.

A 'nothing' death seems too good for them.

I reckon Hell is becoming aware of the consequences of your actions but being unable to make any changes, for whatever reason - in Bradley's case his own unalterable personality, which will never stop being manipulative and obsessive. Perhaps (being charitable here) he is in that Hell now and would like to die to get out of it.

I would like to think that too, Elegran, but don't think it's likely.

ok I take that comment back; it wasnt meant literally, lighten up, I don't believe Hell exists anyway.

feetlebaum "This kind of wishful thinking is rather shocking, isn't it?"

No. It's human nature. And, in this instance, perfectly reasonable.

We will never know what is in Brady's mind; he has never shown any sign of remorse for his crimes as far as we know. He certainly never tried to ease poor Winnie Johnson's pain despite her heartfelt pleas to him. I think his punishment has been a completely wasted life, and the knowledge that no-one will mourn him when he is gone. He has not been loved, and he will not be missed. I don't know whether those things mean anything to him, but if not then he truly is inhuman to the end.

I wonder what his own beginnings were - what his upbringing/schooldays were like?

feetlebaum "This kind of wishful thinking is rather shocking, isn't it?"

JO4 No. It's human nature. And, in this instance, perfectly reasonable.

Yes, it's human nature. And no, it's not reasonable... understandable, perhaps, but deplorable.

Not shocking, though. We all do it.

I'll leave you to be that holy then feetlebaum.

I can't be.