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Jimmy Savile

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merlotgran Mon 01-Oct-12 15:15:59

Do you believe the allegations that he groomed underage girls for sex and if so, do you hold accountable those in the media/BBC et al who heard rumours, had suspicions, saw evidence etc., but said nothing (probably to protect their careers)?

Personally, I always thought he was weird - even going back as far as schooldays when he was an up and coming DJ. I wouldn't have been at all surprised if all this had come out years ago and maybe it should.

Mishap Sat 27-Oct-12 20:49:25

Interesting thought Jeni - I have sometimes wondered this.

jeni Sat 27-Oct-12 20:57:35

Mind you in wednesbury the men were VERY reluctant to part with their clothes!

Ana Sat 27-Oct-12 20:59:10

Perhaps they were waiting for you to help them, jeni? wink

Ana Sat 27-Oct-12 21:01:07

Although that could be interpreted as a sexist and inappropriate remark on my part....confused

jeni Sat 27-Oct-12 21:03:05

No! Apparently even their wives never saw them unclothed!

MiceElf Sat 27-Oct-12 21:18:06

Jeni, that may be funny, and I suppose it is. But that degree of 'prudery' was a defence in working class overcrowded homes of inappropriate display and a protection of the young.

jeni Sat 27-Oct-12 21:43:04

No! Not in my home town. The council houses were large and I can only think of two families with 12+ children. Incest was well known.
The men never saw their wives unclothed either. A considerate husband was one who ' very rarely bothered them!'

MiceElf Sat 27-Oct-12 21:52:41

Well perhaps, but most working class homes were very overcrowded. Amd although families of 12 were rare, for to six children were common. Certainly in the northern town where I grew up. It really was important to maintain boundaries. I agree that incest / 'child abuse' was not unknown, as it isn't today, but considerate husbands and wise men made sure that strict standards of behaviour were maintained. But they didn't 'bother' their wives as a method of limiting families and giving very overworked and weary women a bit of peace.

jeni Sat 27-Oct-12 21:59:50

No! Most women seemed to think that sex was not nice and suffered from vaginissmuss!

jeni Sat 27-Oct-12 22:00:16

Night all! moon

absentgrana Sun 28-Oct-12 10:13:26

Apparently Gary Glitter has been arrested this morning as part of Operation Yew Tree. No surprise there.

absentgrana Sun 28-Oct-12 10:18:50

I remember an occasion when I was in the sixth form, someone reported to the head that there was a man wearing nothing but a yellow cardigan standing at his front gate along one of the main routes to school. I think the entire Middle School made a point of walking home along that particular road, pointing and giggling. I should think that dealt with the problem. Certainly we saw neither him nor his yellow cardigan again.

glammanana Sun 28-Oct-12 12:24:43

absent no surprise there is there ? he was mentioned a week or so ago,I wonder how many other "2nd rate famous" names we will hear of over the next few days I bet a few people are twitching in their boots.

Oldgreymare Sun 28-Oct-12 13:02:04

At college, in the sixties, a friend and I unwisely accepted a lift into the town centre.
The male driver was driving erratically, one handed. It took me a while to realise what was going on. I was in the front passenger seat, my friend in the back.I asked him to stop the car which he did and I flew out. My friend was banging on the window, I had to open the door to let her out. He had removed the handles on the inside.
We went, immediately, to the Police station. Described the man,the car and gave some details of the number.
We were treated as young fantasists! We heard no more!
They say sex offenders' crimes get worse, I can only imagine with horror what might have then happened to the next passenger unable to escape!
At least the Savile case is being taken seriously, thank goodness!

crimson Sun 28-Oct-12 13:06:53

It surprised me when I realised that my son always got into taxis before any girls that he was with, until he explained that, as a man you always get in first due to the fact that the taxi could drive away as soon as your friend had got in.

Oldgreymare Sun 28-Oct-12 13:08:57

Hurrah for your son Crimson

crimson Sun 28-Oct-12 13:15:09

Not sure why he and his pals picked up on that OGM. Will ask him about it. Perhaps it was something that had happened to someone or they were warned about it when they started uni. I know the kids at Leeds all looked out for each other. Yes; he is a dear boy smile.

glammanana Sun 28-Oct-12 15:52:29

Well done by your son crimson what an absolute star he is.

AlieOxon Mon 29-Oct-12 07:13:59

See they arested Gary Glitter too yesterday - now out on bail....

jO5 Wed 31-Oct-12 10:35:34

why didn't he speak out at the time?!

That is really shocking. Surely someone must have had suspicions? confused

soop Wed 31-Oct-12 11:34:11

The last four letters of JS's name spell vile...very appropriate.

numberplease Wed 31-Oct-12 16:49:45

There was a Hull man on the local news today, said he was abused by Savile at Leeds General Infirmary over 30 years ago, whilst Savile was pushing th stretcher that he was on, and he was in his 20s at the time! He complained, but was told he was a liar, but surely a man in his 20s could have done something to stop him, unless he was fairly incapacitated, which he doesn`t say.
I`d be interested in knowing whether any of the allegations have come from America. I remember many years ago, after interviewing a 13 or 14 year old Brenda Lee, he made a jokey comment later that she seemed to think he was trying to pick her up, and kept looking to see if her mother was still outside the door.

numberplease Thu 01-Nov-12 20:43:31

I see that Freddie Starr has been arrested tonight, he`ll probably be out on bail soon, like Gary Glitter.

jO5 Thu 01-Nov-12 21:21:13

I don't believe Freddie Starr has done anything wrong. I know he's been a right "jack-the-lad" in the past, but this just isn't him.

nanaej Thu 01-Nov-12 21:46:16

It would seem that is how JS got away with his behaviour for so long j05

But innocent until proven guilty....