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Is obesity linked to class?

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gillybob Wed 23-Jan-13 12:51:45

Minister responsible for public health, Anna Soubry says "you can spot poor people, they are the fat ones eating breakfast buns" shock

Is this "lady" right? Are poorer people fatter than their richer counterparts?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266796/Health-minister-Anna-Soubry-says-obesity-linked-class.html

thatbags Thu 12-Dec-13 09:40:27

A five year old at ten stone sounds as if s/he might be very ill. Some do argue that allowing a child to get that overweight is child abuse. Some argue that obesity is an illness. If a child has a serious illness they are usually admitted to hospital for treatment. What's the difference between that and taking a child into care for treatment of obesity if it's an illness, or to protect it from further abuse if the obesity is caused by abuse?

I am not shocked by the taking into care of a child weighing ten stone. Actually, I find it hard to imagine such a child so the shock I feel is that there exists such a child.

Aka Thu 12-Dec-13 09:43:45

There is a world of difference between a child being taken into hospital and entering the 'care' system.

thatbags Thu 12-Dec-13 09:44:11

At my grammar school we did domestic science, sewing, singing, and Latin for the first three years. Only then did we choose which subjects to keep or drop for 'O' level.

However, I learned to cook by watching my mum and by buying a cookery book that was published in 1900 when i married, and experimenting with recipes. Isn't experimentation how everyone learns to cook?

Learned how to do a roux from a book, then taught my mum who, nevertheless, prefers the cornflour thickening method because she can't be arsed to stand about stirring.

thatbags Thu 12-Dec-13 09:45:02

Yes, aka, i agree. But we do not know all the details of this story so I'm not willing, at this stage, to condemn the taking into care of that child.

thatbags Thu 12-Dec-13 09:45:51

Because i don't think taking into care is always, or by definition, a bad thing. It depends on the circumstances.

annodomini Thu 12-Dec-13 09:54:43

In the top class in primary school, we had to make an apron in preparation for the cookery classes the following year. Because of material rationing and shortage, these aprons were like something out of a French farce. The bib was a small triangle. As for caps, we were expected to find a white collar from a men's shirt - or one of those separate collars they used to wear - and attach it with elastic. It was still the era of make do and mend.

Hunt Thu 12-Dec-13 09:55:54

the first thing we learned to do in domestic science was to make potato nests and carrot boats. I have to say they did look attractive when we had finished and we had learned how to cook two vegetables. for our school certificate exam we had to make half a bra! We also had to make some fairy cakes. Two of mine got burned so I ate them !

Aka Thu 12-Dec-13 11:01:29

Bags I agree. It's not a step that should be taken lightly. But between the options of hospital and care there ought to be a middle path. There are, sadly, going to be an ever-increasing number of cases like this. Someone (??? who???) needs to address this and how to turn the tide of obesity.
Anyone who puts forward suggestions/measures is branded part of the 'Nanny State' well tough! It's the Nanny State and the NHS in particular, with funds which could be better deployed elsewhere, who has to cough it funding of £1,000,000 per hour for treatment of type 2 diabetes.

Rant over. Perhaps care is the best option 'pour encourager les autres'.

Riverwalk Thu 12-Dec-13 11:11:53

Ten stone is an unimaginable weight for a five-year old .... I can only assume that the weight was steadily increasing and that the school and social services have been involved for a while.

Taking her into care must have been a last resort.