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pensioners and bedroom tax

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MamaCaz Thu 14-Feb-13 12:29:04

Are you one of the 90 000 pensioners who could be affected by this? If you claim Pension Credit, and you or your partner is retired, but the other is still of working age, then you probably are.
Many people are still unaware that when Universal Credit is brought in, such mixed-age couples making a new claim for benefit will no longer be eligible for Pension Credit. Instead, they will have to claim UC. That means that the so-called bedroom tax will apply. On top of that, the much lower benefits available on UC mean that as a couple, they will get less help than a single pensioner living alone.
I found an excellent blog on the subject:

speye.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/pensioners-hit-by-75m-bedroom-tax-this-year/

I accept that it is necessary to tackle public spending, but it seems unfair that the pensioner in the couple should be penalised in this way. I fear that these changes will lead either to a surge in divorces, or to a considerable number of poor pensioners whose autumn years will be very bleak due to their having a younger partner who, for one reason or another, is unable to bring in a living wage.

Ivanhoe Fri 15-Feb-13 14:47:04

Lilygran, No. Just skip what you cant be bothered to read.

MamaCaz Fri 15-Feb-13 15:34:10

Have a look here - it looks like things might be even worse than I thought.

(And if you do, check out comments by Joe Halewood. I only stumbled across his blogs and comments last week, but he seems to have his finger on the pulse and makes some excellent observations. Personally, I will be following his comments on that page with great interest, because he is great at analysing what has been said, and explaining what it actually means.)

MamaCaz Fri 15-Feb-13 16:00:28

Oops - I forgot to add the link:

www.insidehousing.co.uk/tenancies/67000-pensioners-to-be-hit-by-bedroom-tax/6525753.article

HUNTERF Mon 25-Feb-13 09:05:55

My view is it is OK for me to live on my own in a 4 bedroom detatched house as it is a private house but if it is provided by the council I think as a taxpayer a single person on benefits should only have a 1 bedroom property.

Frank

BAnanas Mon 25-Feb-13 09:26:40

I don't think it's fair, depending on individual circumstances, some will require more than one bedroom for a multitude of different reasons it's just going to go down as punitive and petty like most unfair taxes. Although I do wonder why someone like Bob Crow has to occupy a local authority house given his annual salary is allegedly around £140,000, high earners should not be occupying homes that could be offered to families on low incomes.

HUNTERF Mon 25-Feb-13 10:02:24

Hi Bananas

I do agree some situations have to be looked at.
There was a story in my local newspaper about a council household having a combined income of £100 k a year.
What had happened was there were 3 sons with good jobs who were in their early 20's.
I don't think the son's income could be counted as they are likely to leave at some point and get their own homes.
I think they have got to be allowed to stay in that council house to give them a chance to save and possibly buy a house in the future.

Frank

Movedalot Mon 25-Feb-13 10:29:58

But we do also have to think about all the families without anywhere to live. It must be very hard for them living in overcrowded B&Bs or small flats to see others with more than enough accommodation. I am so glad I don't have to make those decisions.

HUNTERF Mon 25-Feb-13 10:34:50

Hi Movedalot

Are your comments directed at people with private homes or just ones with social housing?.

Frank

gillybob Mon 25-Feb-13 11:13:34

I totally agree BAnanas it is grossly unfair that someone with such high earnings should be allowed to occupy social housing. Wasn't there a story recently involving one of Mick Jaggers children occupying a council flat?

HUNTERF Mon 25-Feb-13 11:22:13

Hi gillybob

Mick Jagger can not be forced to support his children.
There have been situations where parents have been in council houses and the children have become hospital consultants etc earning very high salary's.
Would you say those children should be forced to buy their parents private houses?.

Frank

Movedalot Mon 25-Feb-13 11:30:54

Hunter I was talking about social housing as it is subsidised by the taxpayer.