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Alan Turing pardon

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bluebell Sat 20-Jul-13 09:39:20

Moved - you do have a very valid point. There have been a lot of changes in social legislation eg abortion, attempted suicide where people were punished and now wouldn't be because the law has changed. But if the government decides to pardon, I think it should be everyone in that category if pardons are to handed out and not a favoured few ( or one)

Greatnan Sat 20-Jul-13 09:38:53

I think a general pardon for every man found guilty of simply having a homosexual relationship (I am not talking about other crimes, such as having sex with underage partners) would be extremely welcome by many men and their families. Surely it is never too late to put right a patent wrong?

j08 Sat 20-Jul-13 09:32:09

Not sad at all bluebell.

j08 Sat 20-Jul-13 09:30:53

I've googled it. Very sad. The world was very narrow minded, and cruel, in 1952! Thank God we've come on in leaps and bounds fairly recently.

Not sure a posthumous pardon will help anything though. The history is written now. I guess it would be a belated apology.

Movedalot Sat 20-Jul-13 09:29:46

What would be gained by pardoning him? The law was as it was at the time. How far will we take this sort of thing? It could go on forever! Surely the past is just that?

bluebell Sat 20-Jul-13 09:26:48

But When do you think that will happen? It just seems so wrong to pardon someone because they were valuable to society and not just as a human being and it was simply wrong? I wonder if Stonewall are doing something ? JO8 I just devour the Guardian over breakfast ! Sad life!

j08 Sat 20-Jul-13 09:21:32

Sometimes I despair of myself, missing all these so important news items.

whenim64 Sat 20-Jul-13 08:54:13

The reason for the pardon isn't the only issue, it's the injustice that gay men faced, so I hope this clumsy but welcome progress has set a precedent for more men to not only be pardoned but have those convictions overturned.

bluebell Sat 20-Jul-13 08:06:35

Much as I abhor the way in which Alan Turing was treated under the appalling legislation of the time, I am really uncomfortable with his having a pardon simply because of the valuable work he did. It smacks of an elitism which should have no place in the criminal justice system. I would absolutely support a pardon for all men in his situation even if 'all' they did in the war was empty dustbins