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Baby P's fiend of a mother's release .

(52 Posts)
ladybird9 Tue 08-Oct-13 17:26:46

so glad that I have registered with Gransnet,so that I am able to voice my thoughts about the sad, sad, treatment and finally death of this small child, I am absolutely disgusted at the news today that baby P's FIEND of a mother is being released, how, why, is she still breathing the same air that we breath, AND TO BE GIVEN ANOTHER IDENTITY, shame on the English Justice, did that small child have a choice, no..........
come on let's get together and keep her where she belongs, although in my mindprison is too good for her, she should no longer be breathing.

whenim64 Tue 08-Oct-13 17:33:20

Sorry, ladybird. Your post reads as though you want to incite trouble when you state she should no longer be breathing. I think that our thoughts should be about what happened to that poor child, and how she can show some responsibility now she is being released, to live with what she did. I don't feel I want to get together with anyone to put this unfortunate, irresponsible woman back in prison. She now needs to show she can live a non-offending life, out of the public eye.

Greatnan Tue 08-Oct-13 17:37:11

She has served the time to which she was sentenced. I don't know if she got any treatment, but perhaps she will live a different kind of life. The last thing we want are vigilantes deciding on her sentence for themselves.
I thought she should have been charged with man-slaughter, under the 'joint enterprise' rules but I suppose the CPS knew more that I know.

j08 Tue 08-Oct-13 17:42:23

This thread is pointless. I, for one, don't care what happens to her.

The two men involved, I would like to kill. Very slowly. But what is the point in even thinking that.

We can only hope the social workers do better in future. Vain hope probably.

Hebs Tue 08-Oct-13 17:45:43

I am new to GN, None will ever condone what she did to her child. I object strongly to people like you trying to incite vengance and stirring up peoples emotions, what do you hope to gain by this post and who has put you up to it

Ana Tue 08-Oct-13 17:55:33

Goodness, let's not get carried away, hebrideanlady!

There's no chance that Gransnetters are going to form a vigilante group in support of this or any similar cause - best just to ignore such posts if you find them upsetting.

Stansgran Tue 08-Oct-13 18:01:21

I would prefer that she stayed in prison given that she could easily fall in with the same people or similar and have another child. I hope someone has given her the opportunity to talk about contraceptives.

BAnanas Tue 08-Oct-13 18:05:12

Of course it goes without saying baby P'S death was too awful for words along with all the other babies and children who have suffered at the hands of their parents/carers. Having said that I hate lynch mob mentality I think it's very dangerous.

Elegran Tue 08-Oct-13 18:05:36

hebrideanlady is right though, Ana

The OP wants us stirred up into righteous indignation at the mother being released after serving her due sentence and helped to start a new life. I would say that she should have a chance to show that she was weak, not wicked, and will now try to do better. While in prison she will have discovered what the other inmates think of her, and it is to be hoped that she will do better. I have no doubt that she will be closely watched, whatever her new identity is.

Justice and vengeance are not interchangeable.

Ana Tue 08-Oct-13 18:16:14

Of course the OP wanted to stir us up, Elegran - but I don't see why it should be assumed someone put her(?) up to it.

Greatnan Tue 08-Oct-13 18:19:21

A clue could be in the fact that she seems to have registered in order to raise this issue, and suggests we should all get together to do something! Like what? I doubt if the woman in question is likely to read our posts.

j08 Tue 08-Oct-13 18:26:33

Ladybird has posted before. May 2011

Ana Tue 08-Oct-13 18:49:23

And again today, on the Silly Games thread...

Elegran Tue 08-Oct-13 18:55:29

More often than that, J08

Ana you thought Hebrideanlady was getting unnecessarily het-up at the post. But inciting us to "get together and keep her [the mother] where she belongs" as "she should no longer be breathing" - and wishing to get us het up ith her to do achieve that - does cause those being wound up into lynch mobs to feel very uncomfortable.

I agree that she need not have been "put up" to it, she could be expressing her own opinions - but so was Hebrideanlady.

j08 Tue 08-Oct-13 18:59:42

It's understandable. She let it happen. I guess the people who have been dealing with her know best. She was probably weak and pathetic.

The men were evil.

Hebs Tue 08-Oct-13 19:05:05

I never joined GN to upset anyone. I am allowed an opinion like everyone else. I stand by what I said. it is my opinion and only my opinion, that this person has been incited by others, to stir up peoples emotions so GNetters fire the bullets.

j08 Tue 08-Oct-13 19:07:53

I think she is simply voicing her, understandable, feelings.

j08 Tue 08-Oct-13 19:08:56

What bullets?! confused And why?

absent Tue 08-Oct-13 19:11:16

If you read the thread title, you should have got a clue what to expect from the word "fiend".

Hebs Tue 08-Oct-13 19:11:57

Lets all get together and keep her where she belongs

Elegran Tue 08-Oct-13 19:12:41

I think it more likely that it is her own opinion, Hebrideanlady but you are entitled to think otherwise. It is difficult to be certain what causes people to post as they do - we can only go by what we read.

j08 Tue 08-Oct-13 19:13:49

No. Just anger. From the memory of the awful event.

Elegran Tue 08-Oct-13 19:14:30

It does sound very ominous when it is not linked with mention of who is to be kept where she belongs, doesn't it? It could be any one of us.

j08 Tue 08-Oct-13 19:16:07

Hebrideanlady, that is slightly naive of the original poster. That's all.

Although there will probably be more of this. When the likes of the Sun and Mail get started.

Hebs Tue 08-Oct-13 19:20:30

Sorry quote from OP "come on let's get together and keep her where she belongs"