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Badgers to be gassed

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thatbags Thu 10-Oct-13 18:48:42

I learn from the Scottish Wild Lands Group that the NFU welcomes the plan to gas badger families in their setts!

So, we've to be outraged about children being gassed in Syria but it's OK to gas badgers at home!?! shock

merlotgran Sat 12-Oct-13 20:28:11

confused

thatbags Sat 12-Oct-13 20:27:51

Not a pregnant one though.

j08 Sat 12-Oct-13 20:26:43

It would work if you could get every single one of the buggers.

Well, you could leave one.

Hebs Sat 12-Oct-13 20:25:47

As far as I know they were relocated safely

j08 Sat 12-Oct-13 20:25:30

You can hear hedgehogs. They rustle in the leaves when you have to get the washing in in the dark.

DH says it's only the hedgehog.

thatbags Sat 12-Oct-13 20:24:13

Does removing and re-siting them work? Does anyone know?

thatbags Sat 12-Oct-13 20:23:18

hebridean, hedgehogs leave their spoor in our garden throughtout their active time of year. We rarely see them because we are not out there at the same time as they are. Doesn't mean they aren't here.

Hebs Sat 12-Oct-13 20:22:30

They can still be removed, but not killed

merlotgran Sat 12-Oct-13 20:18:47

It's taken nearly forty years for the numbers to increase to the point where measures have to be taken to reduce them. I don't suppose a few people woke up one morning and decided to go to the Hebrides and kill all the hedgehogs. Hedgehogs were not supposed to be there in the first place and have no natural predators so it's no wonder their numbers are causing concern.

Hebs Sat 12-Oct-13 20:16:28

PS I have lived here 8yr and don't know anybody that's even seen one

Hebs Sat 12-Oct-13 20:14:35

They used to catch them and take them to a sanctuary on the mainland

j08 Sat 12-Oct-13 20:12:06

If they bred from only three originally, they would have to exterminate them, wouldn' t they? Or, preferably, ship them all off to the mainland.

Hebs Sat 12-Oct-13 20:07:11

I suggest that you nip up here to see what really happens

merlotgran Sat 12-Oct-13 20:02:29

But as I've said in an earlier post, wild animal numbers need to be controlled if they are causing problems with breeding programmes of other species.

Hebs Sat 12-Oct-13 19:58:58

Weather they are culled or exterminated, they are still dead

merlotgran Sat 12-Oct-13 19:56:27

Exterminate or cull, hebrideanlady? There's a huge difference.

Hebs Sat 12-Oct-13 19:53:46

Thanks for that Jo8 very interesting, sadly they have changed their minds and are now just out to exterminate them

j08 Sat 12-Oct-13 19:44:56

this is what the Beeb said in May

Hebs Sat 12-Oct-13 19:08:49

Sadly no Flowerofthewest if you look at my earlier post it tells us that they are being killed by lethal injection, being trapped and hunting with dogs. They are trying to do this quickly before animal rights get involved. Knowing things that can happen here I am not convinced they will be killed in a humane way.

Flowerofthewest Sat 12-Oct-13 19:04:25

The fund allowed for the original capture of hedgehogs culminated in it costing around 1,000 per hedgehog captured

j08 Sat 12-Oct-13 19:00:43

Oh that's so good! smile

Flowerofthewest Sat 12-Oct-13 18:56:56

If I am correct, the hedgehogs are not being culled but collected and shipped to the mainland.I am sure this was because of the outcry when culling was suggested. I think that the story goes that a well meaning schoolteacher brought 3 hedghogs to South Uist to show the class. They were then released and now the problem is major. The hedgehogs predate on the ground nesting birds' young and eggs. They must be removed from the Outer Isles for the safety of the ground nesting birds. I think I am correct that they are being removed and shipped out.

j08 Sat 12-Oct-13 18:54:36

It would be a waste of money. Where would it get them? It is a known fact cattle get tb from badgers, as well as from other sources.

I'm sure they have some kind of night sights. T

They are not going to gas badgers. Nothing has been agreed upon.

Having said that, it is a fact that culling won't work.

Aka Sat 12-Oct-13 18:46:54

Are they not Deedaa? That would seem logical to me confused

Deedaa Sat 12-Oct-13 18:38:46

So we'll go out and try to shoot nocturnal animals in the dark and then wonder why it doesn't work. And gassing, which the government stopped because it was inhumane, is suddenly allowable. Par for the course with politicians really. The thing that really shocked me was that they are not testing all the dead badgers for TB. Surely we need to know what percentage are infected? A small sample from a haul of dead badgers that wasn't as much as you expected to shoot anyway isn't going to tell anyone anything.