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What is it with the Windsors?

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absent Thu 24-Oct-13 01:12:13

First of all they put the poor child – born, please note, in the twenty-first century – in a ^replica (not even the original) of the christening robe first made for Princess Vicky (born 1840). Then he is christened with water from the River Jordan. What kind of superstition is that about? And how clean is any river water? And he has no fewer than seven godparents. Are they all going to see to his spiritual welfare? Yeah – oink flap.

Then the media like to tell us that the Cambridges wish to lead as normal a life as possible.

Penstemmon Mon 11-Nov-13 10:44:35

What a lot of fuss! The royal family do not lose a moments sleep about opinions of individuals on a forum! To think they actually care about the people as a whole is not backed up by action! They do some good PR work for charities and am sure some royal individuals have been touched by some experiences in the course of this work. But not one have them has yet decided to sell the crown jewels for the good of the sick & poor!

The individual royals are like a soap opera and I find it hard to understand people who follow their lives and feel pleasure or pain for people they do not actually know! I do not wish them any individual pain or harm any more or less than anyone else I do not know!

As an institution I do not support the royal family and would prefer a republic. We do not have to choose a presidential style to replicate the royal approach. We could be innovative and choose to create a different approach.

janeainsworth Mon 11-Nov-13 10:42:37

Gracesmum flowers
and some for you Hannoona flowers
Have a nice day, y'all grin

gracesmum Mon 11-Nov-13 10:38:42

Right for once and for all:

I am very sorry if I made it look as if I was associating Hanoona woth nigglynellie's patriotic royalist outbursts to which I referred. I should have made it clearer that everything I said about our freedom to express our opinions on GN (and I take nothing back) was in response to the comments which I had "blacked" to show it was a reference to a post - BUT I accept I did not make it clear that Hanoona had nothing to do with that.
I misunderstood the reference to "Carol" and mistakenly thought that somebody's anonymity was being compromised.

I shall now go and stand in the corner and hope that Madge/Camilla/Carole Middleton/Princess Anne/ and any other Royal gransnetters have not taken umbrage as that will be my gong out of the window. <curtseys>

Eloethan Mon 11-Nov-13 10:23:32

gracesmum I didn't understand the reference to "Carol" either - it was maybe a reference that was more likely to be understood by royal watchers.

Lona Mon 11-Nov-13 10:12:38

gracesmum Don't be upset, this is just a silly mix-up! flowers

gracesmum Mon 11-Nov-13 09:48:32

Oh dear - am I the only person not to have realised that hanoona meant *Carole M (with an e) when she wrote Carol M?? There was no joke about *Carole Middleton" or a reference to a member of the royal family just a question addressed to "Carol /Carol M and her friends" - which in my innocence took to be genuine GNetters. I would have "got it" if she had said "Carole M". MY Mistake - OK?.
"Jokes" can misfire when people get things wrong and I do not see why I am now getting all this flak and snide personal remarks about "my own standards"

need2search Mon 11-Nov-13 09:29:56

Are we to take it that the mighty ones at GNHQ didn't get Hanoona's joke re Carol/Carole Middleton?

Wake up in the back there!

gracesmum Mon 11-Nov-13 09:13:03

I am sorry about the "blacking" of the best part of a sentence. This was not intended- I was not shouting or even being emphatic. Genuinely accidental.

gracesmum Mon 11-Nov-13 09:11:23

Oo-er. I so agree Faye that people don't post on GN to be told off so I won't take Hanoona's diatribe as a telling off. As Cari has said the confusion was largely down to the missing "e" - Carol without an "e" and Carole look like 2 different people and I mistook Hanoona's comment about "Carol M's friends" as a reference to *real people on GN. My other remarks were not addressed to Hanoona as should be obvious to her and anybody else as they were a quote from another post.
As for taking offence where none was meant - well, the criticism was addressed to me so I think the jury is still out on that.
However, if anybody wishes to take issue with my remarks about our entitlement to have an opinion on current issues - whether Royals and their hats or women's rights in Middle Eastern countries - please feel free.
In the meantime I think it is much more important that we care that over 10,000 people may have lost their lives in the Philippines not to mention the homeless, the starving and the bereaved. Do we really care more whether the Windsors have a lacy christening robe for their baby ? angry

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 11-Nov-13 08:53:55

With apologies to Hanoona for crossed wires... Absolutely anonymity is taken very seriously on here. Definitely some confusion though (possibly due to the missing e) But we can see that actually you meant Carole Middleton rather than any other Carol and the post will be reinstated.

Faye Mon 11-Nov-13 08:46:15

bluebell I don't care what posters say about the Windsors. Whether they like them or not, makes no difference to me. I do care when posters are singled out and criticized for no reason at all. People post on Gransnet because they enjoy the sociability, they don't post to be told off.

bluebell Mon 11-Nov-13 08:33:29

FFS Faye - first we can't criticise the Windsors now we can't criticise another poster. What I said about han's post was perfectly acceptable and allowed under the guidelines- sounds like you'd enjoy living in Oman where no criticism of anything is brooked.

Faye Mon 11-Nov-13 08:24:24

bluebell, Hanoona was sticking up for herself. Why don't you butt out and mind your own business. I am really sick of people who take offence when none was meant. angry

bluebell Mon 11-Nov-13 08:17:29

And at least in the UK we can criticise the royal family- unlike Oman. I think it's a disgrace that the Queen visits such a despot but I know it's about politics( and picking up tips for Charles!)

bluebell Mon 11-Nov-13 08:03:23

Han - I think your reply to grace was OTT in the snide personal comments you made - there was a lot of misunderstanding but you jumped in and attributed unwarranted base motives to her. BTW - sultan of Oman - another democratic leader!!

LizG Mon 11-Nov-13 06:58:04

Have to say I took your comment as a joke Hanoona as I did with bluebell's and one or two others and I found them funny. There was one to which I responded (fron nigglynellie) which I found a teensy bit insulting. I wonder if along the line all these posts got confused and you took the rap (?sp) for someone else?

Riverwalk Mon 11-Nov-13 06:39:58

I think it was a misunderstanding Hannoona - and very surprised that your fun post was deleted.

I certainly took your comment as a joke - rather like in the past we've joked that the queen and camilla might be members. As if! grin

Hannoona Mon 11-Nov-13 03:08:54

Gracesmum thank you for that but if you were able to go back and read my comments with a less jaundiced eye you would see they were very much in the same style as Merlotgran suggesting palace staff were here looking for subversive comments. It was attempting humour after nigglynellie posted what others thought were eyebrow raising to say the least, I didn't raise my eyebrows, I joked and implied it was an irate and fed up granny having her say. This is Gransnet after all.

As for knowing the granny - not even by way of six degrees of separation and an order of party plates and sparklers. Please don't judge me by your own personal standards, you may have looked at my post and thought I was showing off so I will assume you recognized it as something you would do - and you mistakenly applied your standards to me.

I have no idea why the post was removed when there is other mention of the Royal Family in the thread, but its nice to know that you are on the job for when the moderators are out for the evening and someone needs a telling off.

For the record - I am a very patriotic, one of the proudest moments of my life was when Her Majesty The Queen made a visit to Oman two years ago. To see HM and our Sultan spending time together was a dream come true. As was seeing my grandson give flowers to HM at an Embassy Garden Party after standing in the heat for hours as part of an welcome party.

And just in case you missed it, here is my first contribution to the thread

I thought he looked adorable in his Christening outfit and I really do like the tradition of it all.

As for the ladies on the day - they looked rather lovely also

with best wishes
Hanoona

Eloethan Mon 11-Nov-13 00:44:57

niggleynellie I agree that this christening is absolutely nothing to do with us, and I, and I'm sure many others, would much prefer not to hear all about the lives of Kate and William, the christening, etc. Unfortunately such news is unavoidable.

If the people in question find it so onerous being in the public eye, they are perfectly at liberty to renounce their positions, together with all the wealth and privileges that go with them.

gracesmum Sun 10-Nov-13 20:51:50

Hanoona - I am not sure ywho ou are are calling Carol but if you are trying show off who you may or may not know, could you please remember that respect for each other's anonymity totally underpins our ability to be open and honest on this forum. We are, similarly entitled to express personal opinions about a whole range of issues from christening gowns to FGM to recipes for soup to the international situation. We are also entitled to disagree with the opinions of others without being accused of being hurtful, unkind or plain horrid. You can only be hurt by what y ou hear or read so I am not too worried that Kate or Wills (or maybe it is Carole Middleton you were meaning) are going to lose any sleep over any of our posts!!

Ana Sun 10-Nov-13 20:36:09

The staff probably say much worse between themselves. In fact, one or two of them may be GN members...

merlotgran Sun 10-Nov-13 20:08:54

Ah but what about the staff, absent. They could be on here looking for gossip subversive comments.

That's definitely me in the tower.

absent Sun 10-Nov-13 20:01:03

It seems unlikely that any members of the royal family, least of all the Cambridges given that they are only 31, reads GN forums and so they are unlikely to have hurt feelings by anything said here.

Nonu Sun 10-Nov-13 19:53:10

Her Madge gets her knicks from Primark, so much cheaper !


Merlot , off to the tower with you, grin

merlotgran Sun 10-Nov-13 19:47:19

I wonder what sort of knickers the Royals wear?

M&S sensible ones for Princess Anne?
Bon Marche for Her Maj? grin